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Expanding the possibilities within climate science : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 21/8/2023

Science is about what we don't know and understand. Why would climate change be any different?

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Just assume, for the sake of argument, that the IPCC line of roughly one degree celsius global warming is correct, due human emissions.

What is not correct, and not science, is the primary-school idea that you can crank up the earth's carbon capture so that it "balances out" the emissions - magical net zero, here we come. Warming arrested, planet saved.

Apparently, this UN "concept" crystallised at a green activist retreat, only ten years ago. Instead of picking it apart, Australian scientists enforce it with all the fervour of earth-moves-round-sun. In effect, they are all become political activists, barracking for Albanese.
Posted by Steve S, Monday, 21 August 2023 8:22:29 AM
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I note that CO2-is-good advocates no longer say there is no warming but that warming is beneficial. Maybe not. Just a few years ago there were estimates of how Canada's GDP could increase by 2050 through average temperature rise. As of this month
'The fires have upended oil and gas operations, reduced available timber harvests, dampened the tourism industry and imposed uncounted costs on the national health system.'
According to one source the wildfires had 6,000 ignition points which seems a bit of stretch to blame on arson. Therefore the warming is beneficial claim needs a rethink.
Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 21 August 2023 8:52:48 AM
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WTF?

The author is using the “shot-gun” approach in this article.

Fire enough comments out there and some may hit the mark. Throw in a comment about CV-19 just for good measure.

There are some interesting takeaways from this, however,:

He does acknowledge “... the ability of CO2 to transfer heat in the atmosphere” and that climate change is taking place.

Later stating: “…..that curiosity is being suppressed on the part of the science community, whose ideas, research and expressions must fall in with the existing narrative.”

The author then links to some research supporting his ideas …… so clearly not suppressed.

The linked research is provided by the “Chinese Geographical Science” journal whose aims state:
“ helps readers keep up to date with the latest worldwide geographical research achievements, and reports on new development and changes related to geography in the course of China's economic development.”

While the author claims “Climate change is still very much an evolving domain of science.” he seems to object to the way climate scientists carry out their science.

A call to action but then a rejection of said action when it does not meet his narrative?

Later stating: “Climate change is creating the conditions and opportunities to develop new industries in Australia.”

Taking wine as an example it is well known that in the southern hemisphere suitable wine growing regions are shifting southward.

One person's gain is another person's loss?

There is only so far that it can shift south.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Monday, 21 August 2023 9:42:56 AM
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We do understand the nature of climate change and how we humans have contributed to it in a harmful and potential species extermination, which may also include the human race.

And because we are wilfully blind, we continue to burn fossil fuels at the behest very powerful energy barons and their fawning political spitlickles.

Who by and large rule out the cure, i.e., carbon free, nuclear energy. The only viable solution on the table that will not tank the economy, but rather the very opposite!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 21 August 2023 11:25:17 AM
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Great news: nuclear appears to be firming up with modulars on the horizon - Canadian investment dollars if I heard correctly on abc thismorning.

Alan Finkel has tried to say as kindly as possible that Hydrogen technology is still in it's early days. The Japanese are getting a little tetchy about their investment in Victorian co-research.
Posted by Sergzhy, Monday, 21 August 2023 2:55:54 PM
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Maybe a little ahead of myself.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/for-ontario-nuclear-power-is-the-only-way-to-net-zero-emissions-20230809-p5dv01&ved=2ahUKEwiT1prS_uyAAxVpilYBHeGnCjAQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2N1DWtaVnTdQ27h1OxX1_H
Posted by Sergzhy, Monday, 21 August 2023 3:19:14 PM
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Great stuff. Yet another academic calling it as it really is.

The scam will fall apart when enough academics become brave enough to follow suit.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:24:27 AM
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The cloud proposition is not new. Cosmic rays are known to generate
cloud cover and the quantity of cosmic rays is changed by sunspot
and emission outbursts from the sun disturbing earth's magnetic field.
I note that Ian Plimer has been saying that because of geological
activity that the earth and Australia is already at net zero.
Good chance he is right and together with all the other evidence that
seems to be surfacing I suspect that the CO2 global warming is at last
now being buried. Or at least the grave is being dug !

BTW, saw a report that the UK government has called tenders for
modular nuclear power stations. Watch that space and get in the queue.
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 11:21:09 AM
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Hasbeen:

The author of the article talks about “... the ability of CO2 to transfer heat in the atmosphere” and mentions several times that climate change is taking place.

You respond with "Great stuff. Yet another academic calling it as it really is."

It seems that the weight of evidence has convinced even you to acknowledge the role that CO2 is playing in climate change.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 11:44:57 AM
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