mhaze,

You have never provided any such pre-colonial evidence what so ever, it doesn't exist, not even one time, let alone four times, now your are being purposely obtuse knowing no such evidence exists. What is it in the writing of Confucius, no, more to the point it is in mhaze's writings of Confusion. YOU MADE IT UP SUNSHINE!

I left Paul to go back and find the evidence I've previously listed showing the status of women in aboriginal society, but then it occurred that that is probably an effort that is beyond poor old Paul.

So I did a quick check and found one such post....

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1. Lyndal Ryan (a bleeding-heart for aboriginals) wrote in Aboriginal Tasmanians (page 79 in my edition)..." Aboriginal society faced its first major upheaval with Europeans over the 'gift' of women ....in return for Europeans provisions. [Some tribes] found themselves with only a small number of women, having lost many to neighbouring bands who appropriated them for exchange with the Europeans. The loss of women led to an immediate decline in the birth rate." Elsewhere she talks of how the women held by sealers on the various islands avoided the European diseases and that consequently almost all surviving Tasmanians descended from these sealer male-aboriginal female unions.

2. Blainey (Triumph of the Nomads) has an extensive discussion about Chinese traders, who mainly came south for sandalwood, also returned with aboriginal women. These no record of that in Australia because, as you might know, they didn't write. But there are such records in Chinese archives. Macau, for various reasons seems to have had a sizeable number of such women.

I'd also recommend you read Windschuttle's 'Fabrication' on this same issue, but I don't see much chance of that."

Paul now tries to change the issue by calling for pre-colonial evidence. This might surprise Paul but there is little such evidence because (and stop me if you've heard this before) aboriginals didn't have writing.

As I've written previously, the main reason aboriginal women in Australia suffer domestic violence at rates that far exceed any other group, is that their culture allows for and condones such violence over the millennia. Indeed, archaeology shows that the recovered bones of aboriginal females have fractures, breaks and wounds (especially around the head region) that are only explicable in a society where women were regularly beaten.

mhaze,

I would describe your evidence as scant at best. How does it relate to British colonisation of Australia and the subsequent treatment of the inhabitants. Was it more of that good old British altruism, selfless sacrifice of wanting to do good for the "unfortunates" of the world. AND, I must say at a great cost to themselves.

BTW, where does the concept of "terra nullius", sit with you, if you accept that concept, then there was no violence towards Aboriginal women, as there were no women to be violent towards!

For crying out loud !
Stop comparing the mentality of humans of 250 years ago with the indoctrination of today !
Get it into your thick, void craniums that if 250 years is not enough time to wake up then no amount of money will make you spoiled-brat activists think let alone close this gap you don’t want closed anyway !
To move along with the rest of the World takes a bit more than just the ability to speak ! The animal Kingdom is starting to look more adaptable than activists !

Just saw a Facebook post by a Torres Strait Islander who wrote Yuck,Yuck under Camilla’s photo. Imagine the feigned indignation & uproar & cries of discrimination if a Caucasian Australian did this about an Aborigine ?

Indy,

"Yuckyuck" I do believe is pigeonwhidgon for; "very beautiful HORSE!"

Reminds me of a time in Fiji, when attending a friends relations "restaurant". As we were pursing the joint, my wife said to me in Maori; "Paru, paru" The owner said to me what is paru? I said; "Ah... humm... um ...well, in Maori it means VERY NICE!", nothing could be further from the truth...it means "DIRTY", but not wishing to offend.