Hassy,

"High time magistrates & parole boards became co defenders when they have let likely offenders out on the street."

A silly suggestion, then magistrates and parole boards would be made up of people like you, locking them all up, and letting no one out. Juvenile crime needs to be tackled before the event, not after the fact. You want a system that concentrates on punishment, rather than a system that tackles the root causes of bad behaviour.

David Leyonhjelm is a flog.

Our gun laws succeeded spectacularly at the prime reason for their implementation, to stop mass shooting deaths, the type of which continue to plague the US and by all accounts have become an every day occurrence there.

No self respecting Australian, who cared for their fellow citizens of the country over any ideology or gun fetish, would want a return to those days.

The rest like Leyonhjelm can go jump!

Come off the raw prawn Paul.

We have been concentrating on "a system that tackles the root causes of bad behaviour" for the last 30 years, & it has worked beautifully at increasing the total & viciousness of youth crime exponentially. How much longer do we have to suffer the increase before even you idiots realise that these academic sponsored proposals just don't work? Time to give the other system a go.

Perhaps a few chain gangs, working very visibly on the roads, with that as their future if they continue, would show these ratbag kids that it is no longer a holiday in some kindly youth detention center when they continually flout the laws, & others rights.

Hasbeen
As I have already pointed out to you on another thread, rates of youth offending have declined in recent years, according to the ABS. The most recent data are for 2020-21, and the current data series began in 2008-09. Over that period, for people aged 10-17:

The murder rate dropped by 48%, from 3.3 to 1.7 per 100,000 people
The attempted murder rate dropped by 33%, from 1.2 to 0.8 per 100,000 people
The rate of assaults and other acts intended to cause injury fell by 25%, from 525 to 395.4 per 100,000 people
Rates for robberies, sexual assault, abductions, dangerous and negligent acts also declined.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/crime-and-justice/recorded-crime-offenders/2020-21/3.%20Youth%20offenders.xlsx

It is well known that there can be a large gap between perceptions of youth crime and the reality.

https://www.judcom.nsw.gov.au/publications/benchbks/children/CM_Fatouros_youth_justice_system_broken.html

Hassy

"Chain Gangs" really, what can I say, what next, public floggings, the stocks, work houses, penal colonies with transportation for life. Of course public executions are a must, do you favour hanging or beheading? Nothing like a bit of the claret flowing to get the crowd worked up! I know you hanker for the "good old days", ah yes, those days when a fella like you, could on a lazy Saturday afternoon, wonder down to the town square, and watch some poor bastard's head being separated from the rest of him, really that's, medieval Europe! You are too much, that's just nutty. I didn't mention disembowelling, something you are willing to consider, as a deterrent for first offenders?

So Paul, you do have some good ideas occasionally