We do not all "fall for the idea". Politicians and Big Business tell us it is inevitable. We need to stand up to the proponents of a Big Australia. Oh, I forgot: average Australians, forced to vote for totally inappropriate people, are not really interested, are they?

Never have Australians been able to have a vote on the issue of immigration and population growth. We have no voice. The growth of population in Australia is a tragedy.

In the past there was Nation-building immigration, now they're buying Nation-fleecing immigrant votes !

Sooner or later, the predictions of Thomas Malthus will rear their head.
David

Albanese flat out lied about his intentions. His 300,000 net-migration tsunami is an open declaration of war on electors and the environment.

It will crush wages, boost unemployment, and heighten the (rental) housing affordability crisis. Exactly as donors and "stakeholders" require.

Big Australia 1.0 rolled on for 15 years, through six prime ministers, and was only halted by a global pandemic. Short of an asteroid strike, it is hard to see what can stop Big Australia 2.0. Voters are utterly disenfranchised

I think the driver of high immigration is an unholy alliance of social engineers, neoconservative bureaucrats, the ethnic lobby, the building industry and politicians themselves who want to be captain of a big ship. That wall is now so impregnable minor politicians must find it easier to devote themselves to other issues.

Not only will formerly illegal immigrants be allowed to import family family members but different classes of temporary visa holders (eg aged carers, students, ag workers) will be offered permanent residence. Good luck being able to buy a home. The entry skills requirement seems to be slipping. I'm hearing stories of people being unable to communicate with nursing home staff or airport shuttle bus drivers who lack conversational English. The people don't complain for fear of being told they are racist.

As I said on OLO yesterday I think it will all go bad when the country is in drought and several big coal stations have closed. The social engineers will then have to explain why they thought high immigration was a good idea or politicians for failing to grasp the public mood.

Taswegian,
I want to make the prediction that Albanese's removal from office will make Whitlam's look like a puny little embarrassment on the humiliation scale !

Indyvidual

I would like Ockernese's removal from office to be like that of Ardern's in New Zealand - before an election. He is the really extreme Socialist villain in the party. His replacement by, say, Bill Shorten, would give Labor a chance to get back on its feet by redressing the the horrendous attacks on our culture perpetrated by Ockernese.

We don't want a costly early election, and the opposition needs even bit of three years to get rid of Dutton and get its act together.

We!? There's no we here! We weren't consulted and never ever were. Perhaps some big inner-city developers were? But we weren't. Moreover, none of this migrant number decisions were ever flagged pre-elections. It's based on very flawed economics. Like perhaps we don't need paid slaves but could replace them with a new source of energy.

Human slavery came to an end when we made carbon our slave instead. Now and because of human created climate change we need to make carbon free energy our slave instead. And would except for the dolts in
Canberra still stuck in some time warp in the 19th century. When coal was king. And think that our energy crisis can be solved by subsidising those who are screwing us.

And would seem to be in the pockets of some big inner-city developers/industrialists/miners. All of whom seem to believe they can offset most of the rising cost of energy and capital by screwing down wages and this is assisted by a generous supply of new labour we can't house, and all but slave labour wages. Something surely stinks here/in Canberra.

And all unnecessary when what we need is AI, cooperative capitalism social credit and new age nuclear power, i.e., MSR nuclear waste burners that burn unspent nuclear fuel we are paid annual millions to take, and power prices as low as 1 cent PKWH! Plus, MSR thorium and power prices as low as 3cents PKWH.

Get two for the price of one, nuclear waste reduction and waste we only need to store for 300 years and power somebody else pays for. Shitehouse deal, isn't it?

Cant died in a cornfield over a century ago! Wont still alive and kicking!
Alan B.

What Steve S says.
Alan B.

Interesting in highlighting supposed issues as a narrative but as always, coy on any 'solutions' being demanded, now or in the near future?

Several points including the NOM Net Overseas Migration formula, defined by the UNPD, was expanded to 12/16+ months in 2006 sweeping up more temporary churnover, not 'immigrants', but especially kicked on by international education, backpackers and NZ mobility.

Meanwhile focus is on the NOM and headline estimated population that ignores other more significant dynamics i.e. ageing and decline in the permanent population e.g. more seniors especially with 'baby boomer bomb' retiring.

OECD data is very stark on fertility, youth, old age dependency ratios and working age that passed the 'demographic sweet spot' pre Covid

https://data.oecd.org/chart/6ZoQ

Further, since when have either Labor, LNP or Greens been informed well about demographic and population dynamics i.e. they are hardly experts and often relied upon 'Australia's best demographer', Sustainable Population Australia and suboptimal ABS/UNPD data?

Comparisons are not that simple due to 'statistics 101' requiring same methods and formula for estimating population and growth; the UNPD NOM is used mostly in the Anglosphere while impossible to estimate accurately in the EU Schengen Zone, i.e. no borders and mobility.

Australians can only have opinions based on population and immigration that are based on how well they are informed, by our media which has been dog whistling the nation for decades, or post white Australia and Howard?

OECD data shows clearly that our permanent population is stagnant and ageing that requires optimal management, not just worker shortages, health care or urban environments, but budgets to fund more seniors.

What is your 'solution' with temporary churn over of 'net financial budget contributors'? Mine is simply be patient, as after we pop our clogs populations globally will have peaked and begun their decline to balanced population pyramids.