Indy,

There is no such thing as a " "progconsive" I made it up from the words progressive and conservative. Its a bit like saying I'm a believer and an atheist at the same time, btw that's not an agnostic. What are these traditional conservative values? Are they the beliefs from long ago of Mr Stanley Bruce, spats and straw hats, or more recent the beliefs of 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies, “I Did But See Her Passing By…And Yet I’ll Love Her Till I Die” and his load of gobbledygook! Possible its 'Little' Johnny Howard in his green and gold tracky-dacks. Maybe the great conservative minds on the forum can tell me what they are. This old bloke Everald plagiarised something from 19th Century Protestant handbook, and called it Conservatism, but surely that can't be Conservatism.

The much too prevalent opportunistic mentality of the Australian demographic disabled any chances for restoring the common sense that is required in politics !

Tony Whinger was an ex-national MP in a conservative seat.

When he helped Juliar lie to the nation, he betrayed the values of New England and in spite of all the pork barrelling by Labor his goose was cooked and he was thrashed at the 2013 elections along with his bum chum Rob Oakeshott.

If you want a model of integrity, you simply need not follow the Whinger way.