SR,

Lots of claims that "they worked" there. But a distinct lack of evidence. Just saying "they worked" over and over might convince some, but I'd doubt it.

Laughingly, the only fact you try to use to 'prove' your point is wrong.
You wrote: "NYC with a similar population was experiencing 800 Delta deaths per day." That's simply untrue. Apart from the very early days when the moron Cuomo was putting positive cases in nursing homes and killing off the elderly by the score, they rarely got above 250 deaths per day and never above 500, even for one day. Certainly they never got within cooee of 800 daily deaths in the Delta era. Oh and NYC was also a pro-lockdown locale so quite how their experience helps your case is unclear.

When you just have to fabricate data to support your failed beliefs its time to give it up.

Dear mhaze,

Really? Are you really diving for a diversion this early? Standard fare of course but a bit premature to be going defensive already.

New report from April 7th 2020:

New York City reports a record 800-plus coronavirus deaths in one day
http://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/07/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

I will grant you it seems not all the statistics sites agree with that figure but I haven't found 2 which agree at all.

Whether it was meant to refer to New York State rather than NYC as quoted by CNN who knows, it was still a horrific figure which we were thankfully spared here because we had governments willing to make the hard decisions.

You talk about a distinct lack of evidence yet the proof is plain to see for the rest of us less ideologically tainted folk.

"As of October the 2nd the overall covid death toll in your poster country of Sweden is current triple that of Australia. The US suffered 6 times our rate."

End of story really.

I'll assume this will confuse you.

The Delta version of the virus was first identified in November 2020 and first arrived in the US somewhere around February 2021.
I virus that didn't exist in April 2020 couldn't have caused 800 deaths in April 2020.

Here endeth the lesson.

Oh (and this will confuse you even more) in April 2020 New York City was completely locked down. If lockdowns work as you think, how did they get 800 deaths a day?

If lockdowns work as you think, how did they get 800 deaths a day?
mhaze,
I think lock-downs only work in smaller communities & boost infection in the jam-packed cities !

Dear mhaze,

Firstly since you have repeated the 800 figure it appears you now accept it. Well that is a start.

You ask "If lockdowns work as you think, how did they get 800 deaths a day?" well they happened because there was not a unified federal and state approach and secondly we do not know what the figure might have been if lockdowns were no put in place in New York.

And once again you have dived to the minutia to avoid addressing the substantive matter. It looks like Delta wasn't the strain that was killing 800 people a day in NY but it was still a virulent variant unleashed on a unvaccinated population, something we manged to avoid here using many tools including lockdowns.

"It looks like Delta wasn't the strain that was killing 800 people a day in NY"

A red letter day....SR sorta, kinda, somewhat, more or less admitted error.....

and then deflects. It was, apparently, "minutia". When he raised it, it was the ONLY testable 'fact' he used, but now it minutia.

Still we have progress. SR is now advising that lockdowns were just one of many tools. Ten years from now SR will be telling anyone who listens that he always knew lockdowns wouldn't work.