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Are we helping others increase global emissions? : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 30/8/2022

Is Australia helping increase global greenhouse gas emissions? Yes. Not by continuing our coal and gas exports. By stopping them.

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We could extend this thinking to other situations. First we should let drug dealers out of jail since selling a harmful product is not their responsibility. Second we should throw our garbage onto the street since just one household won't make that much difference.

The fact that renewable energy depends on gas firming after billions in subsidies and mandates shows how unsound the high renewables concept is. By cutting off coal and LNG customers it would force them to find low carbon alternatives. If they don't then carbon tax all their exports.
Posted by Taswegian, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 9:22:31 AM
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Any discussion on this topic only encourages more idiocy.

Climate change is an addiction, and like any other addiction should be tackled as a health problem.

Just as this addiction was created by drug dealers in climate fraud, so should traders in the addictive product be jailed for long terms with no remission.

The price to be paid should equal that of a murderer, and raises the question; is the life of an aged pensioner frozen to death in an unheated apartment room of less value than an over pampered wealthy elite, dead from liver cirrhosis?

One chooses his end, the other is murdered by neglect centred on the idiocy of climate change addiction by uncaring Governments!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 9:45:53 AM
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The whole argument based on a false premise. Our coal exports produce as much as 40% of global emissions. Even more so since Ukraine. We can't mine enough and the price has never ever been higher, ditto gas.

And the (blinkered) Author limits the choice solely between fossil fuels and renewables, which make the whole argument seriously flawed.

What we do here is important regardless of our 1.2 personal contributions to global emissions. If we use the brains we were born with, unlike the Author, we will see other choices he selectively ignores!

Ignored by him is carbon-free nuclear energy! And while solid fuel conventional nuclear is dirty, unsafe and extremely expensive, with fuel that's as rare as platinum and as expensive, then burns at best 10% of the product, enriched U235 as fuel, with the rest adding to waste stockpiles. Enrichment costing annual billions and where big nuclear makes most of its profits, given they build their reactors at cost?

What shouldn't be selectively ignored by the willfully blind is, MSR thorium and subsequent power prices as low as 1 cent PKWH. Thorium is as common as lead and as cheap. the refined metal needs no enrichment to become fuel in a system massively less expensive every which way than conventional solid fueled reactors! And burn as much as 95% of the fuel leaving as little as 5% as far less toxic waste. Waste that's eminently suitable as long-life space batteries!

We can buy MSR thorium off the shelf and have finished bug free reactors towed into locations on doubled hulled barges. MSR technology can also be tasked with very safely burning nuclear waste others pay us annual millions to take off their hands.

And enough money when leveraged to pay for the proposed transition. Others will note our, led by example, energy prices and follow suit as they must as the world's energy dependent high tech manufacturing beats a, trampled in the rush, path to our door.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 30 August 2022 11:56:42 AM
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Are we helping others increase global emissions?

I don't know, the worlds getting pretty picky with micromanagement of coal emissions these days.

On this basis, I wonder where we are on eggs, onions and bean import and exports?
Maybe we should add in the numbers for livestock exports as well, and someone can tally up all the excess farts.
- We may need to invent a fartometer to measure the output, duration and ratio of methane content (aka. stench) of said farts, for accuracy.
The UN and WEF may even step in to regulate all this excess flatulance.
- The way things are going nothing would surprise me,
Fart fines and the Fart police coming soon to a government near you.

Seriously though, Europe by way of sanctioning Russia, has brought absolute catastrophic consequences upon itself.
They'll be like the Weimar Republic when all this is over, and we'll be lucky if we fare much better.
Millions are going to die, food and energy shortages, spiralling inflation and a global depression.
The more food and energy costs increase the more businesses will go bust, more unemployment and people unable to afford the cost of living.
They're too stubborn to stop this western war against Russia using Ukraine as it's proxy or care about the consequences, so we're all completely screwed anyway.
The effects will be felt for decades, for those who are left.

I think the Russians will probably come out of it reasonably unscathed though.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 9:26:47 PM
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The Brits and the Germans will come out reasonably if they keep on
refurbishing their coal and nuclear stations.
Unlike our stupid Labour/Greens they did not blow up their power
stations, they thought Perhaps we should mothball them just in case
this renewables thing doesn't work.
We however are relying on the Chinese to keep selling us windmills
and solar cells, just so long as we say "Yes Sir, No Sir".
We have put our total survival in the hands of the Chinese.
It seems likely that Eastern Australia is not quite big enough to be
able to spread our windfarms out enough to generate 100%/100% power.
If we connect WA into our grid (at guawd knows what cost) using the
whole WA cost we might just get away with 100% reliability.

The UK & Germany are far too small to get 100%, there is just nowhere
to be always able to get enough wind.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 1 September 2022 5:08:21 PM
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Maybe the Klaus Schwabs of this world just wanted to deliberately cause an energy crisis by forcing Russia into a war and subsequent economic sanctions after their global pandemic money printing, all for their Great Reset.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 2 September 2022 9:00:08 AM
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