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A good week for Australia in the Pacific : Comments

By Jeffrey Wall, published 15/7/2022

Then there was an amazingly foolish intervention from the low-profile Australian Minister for the Pacific, Pat Conroy.

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Indy recent evaluation of satellite data has shown that over 80% of Pacific islands including all atolls are growing. The only islands shrinking are some of less than 10 acre total area.

The corals, despite rubbish claims of global global warming harming coral, are doing their job of producing reefs. Fish & waves are doing their job of reducing this to sand, & pilling it up on the islands, increasing the area of these islands.

No inhabited islands are in any danger of disappearing.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 16 July 2022 6:07:52 PM
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Hasbeen

This has been proved by scientists (NZ university ones I believe).

I can't think why the people always telling us 'deniers' to listen to 'the science' do not listen to it themselves. I suppose hypocrisy goes hand in hand with lies.

I saw Ian Plimer the other night again asking why the 3% of man-produced carbon dioxide is more 'dangerous' than the 97% that is produced naturally. He has been asking the people calling themselves scientists that for years, but they have never come up with any answer, let alone one based on science.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 17 July 2022 11:14:37 AM
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Recent satellite images show that Fiji and several Island nations have lost some coastline to rising water.

While that loss may be just a couple of metres? What is scary is the large body of fresh water under Antartic ice only held back by a modest melting ice dam. When not if, that melting ice dam breaches, the oceans of the world will rise by an estimated 7 metres.

Even now some low laying islands have difficulty growing food and accessing fresh water due to inundation by rising seawater (salt water) levels. How many will completely disappear under 7 metres of seawater?

How many will lose their arable broad acre flat land and be left with just their mountians? 7 metres of water will see much of our coastline and 70% of our economy eliminated! And don't say you weren't warned!

Just doing what we've always done and expecting a different outcome, is not a solution nor is burying ones head somewhere warm and comfortable, an answer! But it is insane!

And easy for the, I couldn't care less, Hasbeens of this world to say, ho hum, I'm ok. When it's not affecting him or his.

If it was his island and his family? Rest assured he'd be screaming blue murder!

Or condemning the greens and other antinuclear brigade for foolishly standing four square in the way of carbon free (MSR thorium) nuclear power! And the huge economic boost that it alone can assure, with power prices as low as 1 cent PKWH!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 17 July 2022 11:25:33 AM
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Hasbeen. Coral just does not grow much above the low water mark or low tide!

So, in order for this claimed coral increase, so also there has to be an increase in the low water tidal mark/level! And only possible is the ocean water is rising with melt water!

I thought that engineers were renowned as logical and rational thinkers!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 17 July 2022 11:43:59 AM
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Alan coral grows mostly strongly on the seaward side of any existing reef. Thus it expands the outer edge of such reefs.

If you have ever seen a reef you will find large chunks of coral torn off the edge of the reef & thrown up onto the reef flat, the low tide line by storms.

If you spend any time in the water you would see the "blues" & other small groper expelling clouds of ground coral taken in with their dinner of coral plops scraped & bitten off the reef.

I could show you reefs in various stages of maturity from well under water, to occasionally exposed, to drying a few feet on spring tides, to full atolls, all with in the Great Barrier reef.

After many years cruising the great barrier reef & much of the Pacific Islands, privately in my yacht, & a decade of running tourist reef trips, I have more actual experience of, & time on coral reefs than any marine biologist I met in any of the 3 organisations in Townsville.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:19:40 PM
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Atolls are literally subsiding sea mounts & coral grows at the same pace as water rises or land subsides. Same applies to continental islands.
Just got an email with two photos showing another cause of rising sea level. One photo from 1970 shows thousands of slim people on the beac & other photo from 2021 shows thousands of obese people in the water. There you have it !
Some 8 or possibly more billion tonnes of shipping also contribute to a few millimetres of sea level rise as does land reclamation.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 17 July 2022 3:39:53 PM
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