In my view the nationals and their support for fossil fuel i.e., coal gas, is the reason the libs did so badly. And the coal-fired nats only got in on lib preferences!

Should the libs fail to preference the nats they wouldn't hold a single seat! The nats are now an albatross around the libs neck and unless jettisoned will take them further down!

Ditto the hard right conservatives who wouldn't win a single vote as a party of hard right conservatives if they stood alone as hard right conservatives/neo Nazis, as opposed to sliding into power on the coattails of moderate libs! It's a broad church that folk no longer want!

It's like the communist and the socialists combining as broad church of the left and expecting the voters to wear that!

Hard right, Peter Dutton, as leader of the libs will not help them to rebuild but in all likelihood take them down even further! That choice as leader demonstrates as nothing else can, they are a party of tin ears! Tin ears who never listen and believe all they need do is sell their poison pill message!

The demographics have changed and more young people are casting their ballot. And the libs are not listening to those they claim to represent, never have, never will unless there is huge structural change and along with a new breed of pollie, they can't! It's not in their privileged and entitled, we know best, DNA!
Alan B.

ttbn, there's a good chance of that outcome. Anyway the teals are just moderate libs and will likely support most of labor's agenda. Which as usual will never ever consider nuclear power

A more educated and erudite people sent a message on Saturday. Hard right, white Supremists, neo Nazis, eff off!

What we need is a nuclear power party of the moderate middle, taking huge swathes of votes from the old parties, to change that!
Cheers, Alan B.

Bazz, steel and aluminum production could increase as green steel and green aluminum using hydrogen instead where the trick is to completely exclude oxygen, We can make better stronger long-lived concrete without coal using the waste flux from steel and aluminum smelting instead.

What we need is arc furnaces and cheap 24/7 power! With the ideal candidate being MSR thorium!

Can't use solar or wind without huge expensive battery backup or even more expensive pumped hydro! and thereby pricing our steel and aluminum out of the market!

If pollies weren't so consumed with winning and retaining seats, they'd see that, or do the independent research that would allow them to see what they are not being told!
Alan B.

Alan, if nuclear is available anything is possible, but the greens
won't allow it, just not possible for them.
I think eventually they will accept nuclear because it will be put
to them, its coal or nuclear.

By their own definition, the teals are a mixture of Liberal (Blue) leaners with some added Green interests in relation to climate change. That's why they chose that colour to represent themselves,

Time will tell how they will perform but they already seem smarter than some of those they replaced, but the previous government is likely to be more concerned with the findings of an ICAC when it's created or a Royal Commission into Robodebt.

Hi rache,

Labor is going to have to get in and have a look at the books, the real set of books that is, not the phoney set ScuMo and Friedbrain have been peddling for the last couple of years.

Hi Alan and Bazz,

As a GREEN I am willing to listen to rational debate about nuclear energy production, particularly if there is new technology available that makes it safer. Its not a win win situation and there would be strong argument against it. I try not to have a closed mind on anything, this included, but I do support a strong drive for renewable's.

The climate debate has gone on for years and I believe the science has settled the argument, and human induced CC is real. The debate phase is finished, and real positive action is now needed if we are going to avoid future catastrophes, many of which are with us now.