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Actual sustainable water solutions for Australian urban communities : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 10/12/2021

Media and politicians announce one crisis after another, be it drought, flood, pollution incidents, health pandemics and the economic crashes.

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Forget the fictional "climate crises". Build more dams.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 10 December 2021 9:07:39 AM
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Dams are fine, but the best sites had all already been developed the 1960's.

The others are likely to be poor yields or unsafe geologically ( eg Tilligra in the Hunter Valley that was canned when geological faults would have caused to construction to TREBLE in cost, well more expensive that potable recycling or desalination!!

As for Wyangala, its a dam that should never have been built ( too small a catchment) and rarely fills.... so why build it bigger?

Sounds like the consultants and dam builders need work, and don't want to think about recycling!

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Posted by Alison Jane, Friday, 10 December 2021 10:09:47 PM
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Perth, after 1/5 decrease in rainfall and 4/5 decrease in runoff to dams, wants to near-double its population by 2050. Few more desal plants oughta fix it, I guess.

In the Murray-Darling, a water "market" was grafted on to the 100y traditions of non-metered water and chronic water theft. Works for big irrigators and arbitragers. Sydney looks to raise Warragamba dam wall, as miners undermine its catchments.

Nationally, the driest continent plans to increase population 40% by 2050, plus magically achieve "net zero" emissions. It'll just have to rain more, I guess.

As you'd expect, our NSW and national water "regulators" are well paid for their exemplary technological "tactics".
Posted by Steve S, Sunday, 12 December 2021 6:26:59 AM
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Perhaps it is time to go back to telling people to provide their own. In my district of over 1100 homes, only 70 have a communal water supply. The developer put in a bore to supply the local volunteer rural fire brigade, & delivered trickle feed to each block to fill their water tanks to 1/4, with a cut off at that. They still harvest most of their water off their roof. The rest of us catch all our own off the roof.

Our average rainfall is just over 900mm/year, but in 93 & 94 we had consecutive years of less than 500mm. 93 was the second driest year in the 100 years of rainfall recording. Yes the water carters were busy with some folk, but most of us got through without buying in water. Personally I had a family of 6, 4 of these female with long hair, & got through without problems.

This does prove that it is only city folk, who waste water that cause a problem. Yes it does not look nice when all the grass in the district goes brown in dry times, but lawns come back quickly when rainfall is high, & it doesn't take much water to keep trees & shrubs alive. It is the water being wasted on suburban gardens that runs the dams dry.

Yes it is expensive to provide your own water, my 16,000 gallons of tanks, [71,000L] & a couple of water pressure pumps were not cheap, neither were my grey water disposal systems or septic systems, but it is my waste & water I am dealing with, so why should others pay for a communal system to do it for me?

If more people looked after their own needs, rather than complaining about the job the government is doing, it would be a lot better world.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 12 December 2021 11:39:48 AM
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Steve, totally agree. Its about time the incompetence and damage ( physical, environmental, social and economic damage these bluffocrats at state and federal level have made of water.

Where is their ABC investigation with The Age, CNN, The "Gruniadd", BBC etc Gang of lefty "Chaina" lovers??

Hasbeen... Totally agree, these guys who run our Reulators and Water Utilities should be investigated for incompetence!
Posted by Alison Jane, Sunday, 12 December 2021 1:05:18 PM
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Cities have always been the greatest wasters of resources & the quickest to point the finger at rural communities !
Frivolous sport & entertainment are a major cause of pollution.
Anyone for curbing the excesses ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 13 December 2021 6:42:38 AM
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Brilliant crap as always from Dr Estuary.
Posted by ViolentEntropy, Monday, 13 December 2021 12:39:44 PM
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Violent entropy.. what crap ye doth spout... perhaps you should merge with gentle enthalpy and disappear into a puff of nothingness.

Individual, spot on, and we could do it, but the pollies and bluffocrats like waste as it gives them something to do and crisis manage.. Benign dictatorship is looking so sweet these days!!
Posted by Alison Jane, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 7:46:22 PM
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Organisations like Sydney Water suffer from political interference and what tends to occur is the management becomes political while the politicians become the problem solvers and one gets rubbishy results that serve no real objective.
A good strategy usually has a longer term than the political cycle, so we cant have this, we need things pollies can put a plaque on. The real strategy of closing the urban water cycle by returning purified water to the head of the source would solve all these problems. But we have old school health regulators, the same ones that gave us the Ruby Princess, hotel breaches in December 2020 and June 2021 that closed most of Sydney down for the want of a basic management process. That these same regulators apply with passion resistence to the concept of purified water returning to the head of source for urban centres like Sydney. FFS its done in so many places.
Posted by graeme123, Monday, 20 December 2021 5:14:44 PM
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