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Gasbagging in Glasgow: COP26 and phasing down coal : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 18/11/2021

COP26 president Alok Sharma called the outcome 'a fragile win', the outcome of 'hard work' and 'great cooperation' from the parties.

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yes, we are somehow expected to pay for electric cars, made mostly in China while the latter gets richer, more assertive and continues to burn 50% of the world's coal.

It is about time some Western politicians cut the bs and explain what it would really would take to address emissions, and stop promoting bs win-win scenarios.

Boris Johsnon gives us a clue about necessary truth. The other day he stated the obvious: stop relying on gas from Russia, or do something about Belarus and Russia.

The truth about any desire to cut emissions is that we need to note there will be an expense, perhaps a lower standard of living in terms of buying less cheap consumer products or making some that actually last.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Thursday, 18 November 2021 10:26:37 AM
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Look, it's not about coal primarily.

It's about money and outcomes for a few dozen very powerful individuals who have vast personal wealth generated via coal or fossil fuels. The Glasgow summit has given these individuals some extra time to invest their personal private wealth into superior income-generating outcomes, e.g., MSR thorium.

The ethenic in the woodpile is prevaricating politicians, allegedly supporting mining jobs in electorates, almost as if there was nothing else we could mine.

I mean we could if there was the political will, we could massively increase manufacturing jobs, if the energy policy (1 cent PKWH) and tax policy (a 15% flat tax for all) supported it!

And this has been so for at least 2 decades as prevaricating pollies sold our economic sovereignty and our heritage down the river. In return for pennies and some personal advantageous outcomes?

I don't see solar panels solving our energy needs, just as long as the silica needed is mined and processed by Wiga slave labour!

Solar thermal is the way to harness solar power and if used to make hydrogen via electrolysis. Then it can support 24/7 power And even could do so without any significant transmission of distribution losses, if the gas was piped directly to the home to power up fuel cells that create electricity for the home or domicile!

Wind farms are also problematic given they need to turn for thirty years to offset the carbon created in their manufacture and then there is the bird kill!

Finally, there is the fact that cheaper than coal MSR thorium is both 24/7, is reliable, dispatchable, and cheaper than coal. And is also a carbon-free alternative.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 November 2021 10:30:18 AM
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Yes AlanB

What we need is the return of Donald Trump, or at least the installation of a Trump look alike.

A politician capable of free thought; one capable and intentional of demolishing fences rather than sitting on them, or falling over them in haste to be acceptable to the “wrong” people.

As I admired Trump for his dogged determination, I also think we have our own version of the dogged politician in Clive Palmer and to a lesser extent, Pauline Hanson.

That caliber of politician is the most likely source of hope towards implementing sensible and practical policy direction, which will be economically acceptable and end well.

Certainly the direction currently steered by the prevaricating liberals and Labor brothers and sisters in crime, is obviously idiotic from any practice view against a backdrop of social progress: Not regress as is currently on show with the US on Democratic Biden steroids.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 18 November 2021 12:16:51 PM
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Yes, Dan. One only needs to apply common sense and logics rites! Both of which would seem to be AWOL among the loony tunes on the hill.

I mean if we have a carbon-free 24/7 power option that also needs to include some mining and refining of MSR thorium, that is very significantly cheaper than coal even ROM coal!

And given the few remaining bugs have been ironed out of, CHEAPER THAN COAL MSR thorium. And given we could build several mass-produced reactors in a factory setting in around 12 months! Why are we arguing for the retention of coal?

Surely there are other energy products we could export? Hydrogen, e.g., that we can make here using free abundant sunlight or MSR thorium's waste heat?

Moreover, we need to get back to being a nation that makes things and stuff rather than import from China. And MSR thorium, minus the profit demanding, paper shuffling middlemen does just that!

All that prevents that are conflicted pollies and their personal investment policies/strategies?
Alan B
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 November 2021 12:44:26 PM
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AMAZING, even though this article is written by a comfy green, leftie, young academic, ALL comments so far from us old farts are unanimous in our opinions!

Well done for common-sense, I say! Thank you author, your bland reporting has unified the common-sense practitioners who read OLO foe " non-consensus opinions" on all topics.
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 18 November 2021 3:17:39 PM
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Morones calling morones, idiots !
Posted by individual, Friday, 19 November 2021 6:51:17 AM
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