Well SR, its difficult to argue when you bring forth so many facts </sarc>

A fact free few sentences of assertions.

The problem here is that Biden was completely bamboozled (no wonder you like him ) by the speed of the collapse. That's not entirely his fault since he relied on US intelligence and military reports - much as he relies on others to tell him what to say.

But he did ignore at least some of those reports because ultimately he and his team had their sights set on the propaganda rather than the strategic situation. They wanted to say all troops were out by 11/9 and didn't much care who was left behind because they thought the Taliban would take up to a year to take over.

Trump/Pompeo on the other hand knew that there might be troubles and had established a a rapid response group just for this purpose. Sleepy Joe and his team defunded that group but I bet they wish they were around now.

SR writes :"Biden had very little room to move on the hand your president dealt him. "

Well I know that that is what those who you rely on to tell you what to think are telling you to think. But its rubbish. Virtually every Trump policy imaginable has been overturned by Biden. Yet somehow this one couldn't be changed according to those now looking to find a way for avoid blaming Biden. A mere month ago the departure from Afghanistan was being hailed by the normal Biden sycophants as a brilliant success. IF it was based on the Trump plan (hint:it wasn't) how come it was fine then and rubbish now.

One reason and one reason only - Biden and his puppeteers.

Trump's now trying to side-step his own involvement in this fiasco.

He's the one who would have "had them out by March and not waited until September".
He's the one who set up direct negotiations with the Taliban while excluding the official Afghan government and the one who released 5,000 prisoners from Pakistan prisons, including the now co-leader of the Taliban and various former terrorists. The only solid agreement was that the Americans could depart in safety.

The reason things fell apart so quickly is because the Americans withdrew air support from the Afghan army and the thousands of contractors who kept the helicopters flying snuck away in the dead of night without warning leaving the Afghan army relatively helpless because they were trained as if they had access to air cover and not totally ground-based like the Taliban.
Poor intelligence didn't help either.

rache,

It's certainly true that part of the problem Biden caused was removing the US support for the Afghan airforce. Again, he did that against the advice of those who knew the consequences.

"Trump's now trying to side-step his own involvement in this fiasco."

Trump had no involvement in the fiasco. He certainly was involved in getting most US forces out of the region but he played no part in the utterly messy way that Biden et al implemented that withdrawal. The Trump plan to get out was very different to the Biden mess. Remember that Trump was the one who took the advice to leave some troops there at least until the civilians were out.

"He's the one who would have "had them out by March and not waited until September".

That was for strategic reasons. Winter in Afghanistan is a time when little in the way of military activity can take place. So getting out over the winter period was must easier to handle and would have given the government a few months to try to bed things down before the war season started. Biden et al on the other hand wanted to do it in September for purely domestic propaganda purposes. Everything they do is always aimed at how it'll play on CNN rather than what's good for the nation.

Dear mhaze,

Rubbish.

Trump wanted the bulk of the US troops out before the election for purely political reasons. He went and did a deal with the devil to enable it without telling the Afghan government thereby shattering any moral within the ANA.

To be condemning Biden without acknowledging that is so extraordinarily partisan.