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Found: love. Lost: a chunk of your disability support income : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 25/8/2021

Disability pensions in Australia, where entering into a relationship can be a poverty sentence

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Please explain what is wrong with this reasoning.
Hasbeen,
Everything & nothing ! I wouldn't want to share like that but some people are quite happy to.
By sharing you're giving up & by not sharing you're giving up also.
I for one like to see more content couples than broke ones. What the present penalties are doing is punish decent couples. let me ask you. How would you feel if some bureaudroid can tell you & the wife to live on $634/fortnight with a young child just because your'e married ?
When a Centrelink officer advises you to get divorced so you can afford to live then I think there's a serious flaw in the system.
The Pension is merely a Superannuation but unlike the Pension a Superannuation is for each person, not reduced if you're married. Pensions are paid for whereas Superannuation is heavily subsidised & can be salary sacrificed. Just because some of us were around before the systems changed doesn't make Welfare recipients as Paul1405, who btw. benefits from Govt subsidised Super, likes to call us Pensioners.
Before denouncing people who share to improve their conditions people should denounce negative gearing even more !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 26 August 2021 7:24:06 AM
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Why are regressive leftists whinging about this?

It's THEIR welfare system, designed by regressive leftists for regressive leftism, to create more regressive leftist poverty & has been working VERY well at creating more regressive leftist poverty, creating more regressive leftist domestic violence & creating more regressive leftist child abuse.

You can't create the new commune, until you have completely destroyed the family, or the foundation stone that a free, democratic, private enterprise society or culture stands upon & that's what the CCPA or Chinese Communist Party of Australia has done almost perfectly.

The regressive left have "made their bed" & now are complaining about "lying in it".

This socialist sabotage is your doing & enemy troops will soon be landing to take over.

Enjoy the consequences of what you have done.

"May you live in interesting times & forever"
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Friday, 27 August 2021 2:42:53 AM
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Dear imacentristmoderate,

Crikey old fella, the gout playing up is it?

What a turgid lot on repetitious nonsense.

We live in the kind of progressive society which supports a universal health scheme like Medicare. Your kind of politics wouldn't have a bar of it if it were to be proposed now but Australians overwhelmingly support it.

Stop watching Fox News and stand up for a few decent Australian values for once.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 August 2021 3:21:12 AM
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Dear SteeleRedux, You are joking aren't you?

The repetition is necessary when mansplaining to leftist, feminist females how the world really works.

I am "standing up for Australian values".

YOU are standing up for Anti-Australian Communist Chinese values, along with ALL other loony, leftist nut jobs on Australian soil.

Universal health care services, universal education services, universal welfare services, universal social services were invented by the Presbyterian Churches of Holland & Scotland hundreds of years ago.

During the Protestant Christian Reformation & Protestant Christian Enlightenment, but of course you already knew that, didn't you.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Friday, 27 August 2021 4:29:50 AM
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We live in the kind of progressive society which supports a universal health scheme like Medicare.
Steeleredux,
We had a good Health system before your lot infiltrated it with the nonsense we have to endure now !
In Qld everything Health & Dental was free until your crowd ruined it all.
Posted by individual, Friday, 27 August 2021 9:22:08 AM
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I agree Hasbeen that there are a few issues with my above musings. It would mean that every stay at home mum in theory would perhaps be entitled to unemployment benefits- and this would mean a significant increase in the welfare budget and subsequent pressure on the tax payers. I'm a little concerned however with government interference with personal relationships and this seems to be an example of this.

In a sense it seems to imply that the system is broken.

Perhaps primogeniture (and perpetual inalienable land) was a better system- it didn't require welfare- and the government only needed to be concerned with proximate affairs- not everything.

Republican Benjamin Franklin said that it was important to have hospitals for the poor because it provided more labour for the rich.

In a sense the PBS provides a similar function but obviously the costs need to be carefully managed.

An unstable society isn't good either.

I think a lot of businesses have forgotten that the true source of wealth is thought and invention and not artificial monopolies. IP law quite rightly protects inventors profits for a period of time to stimulate innovation in society- I don't have an issue with protectionism between countries- but often the relationships in the supply chain conspire to create monopolies of a different sort.

This is a tricky problem- but worth talking about.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 27 August 2021 8:12:28 PM
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