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Go for Olympic host city gold - and go for broke too : Comments

By Graham Young, published 30/7/2021

The Olympic business model means that host cities invariably lose out. Brisbane will need a heroic effort to avoid that fate.

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Brisbane the only bidder! Shows how dumb or totally out of the touch Pluckachook is. I hope she is 'rewarded' by Queenslanders at the next election. Of course, voters probably don't know that there is an opposition: like all states except SA, they never say boo.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 30 July 2021 3:27:36 PM
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Aidan last year Germany increased it's coal consumption by 29%, with the majority of that being brown coal. It is building a new gas pipeline to import much more Russian gas. So much for renewables reducing emissions. The only thing windmills reduce is the wealth of people of the country that erects them.

Yes the Olympics are sure to see more investment in tax payer funded public transport. Not only will billions be wasted in building the things, but then hundreds of millions more will be wasted every year in running then at a huge loss for decades.

Time to get inefficient government out of public transport for ever.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 31 July 2021 12:57:45 PM
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Hasbeen,
> last year Germany increased it's coal consumption by 29%,
What is your source or that figure?

Germany is phasing out coal power. In 2038 it will be banned completely.
But unlike other nations, Germany is also phasing out nuclear power. So it is possible that closure of nuclear plants resulted in a reversal of Germany's huge decrease in coal consumption from 2018 to 2019. But if that's the case (and I can't find any evidence it is) it's just a statistical biip on a decline that will reach zero in the medium term.

>The only thing windmills reduce is the wealth of people of the country that erects them.
What will it take for you to comprehend that costs are not what they were a decade ago?
We've now reached the stage that it's coal fired power stations that have the wealth reducing effect.

>Yes the Olympics are sure to see more investment in tax payer funded public transport.
Good - there's been an underinvestment in that, and it's time it was remedied.

>Not only will billions be wasted in building the things, but then hundreds of millions
>more will be wasted every year in running then at a huge loss for decades.
Would you prefer they emulate Melbourne and spend the money on overpriced roads instead?

>Time to get inefficient government out of public transport for ever.
Reducing government involvement doesn't automatically make it more efficient, and doing nothing is not an efficient option either. Making it more efficient is possible, and crowdsourcing should be a big part of the solution.
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 31 July 2021 3:19:09 PM
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"Germany is phasing out coal power. In 2038 it will be banned completely". A pipe dream Aidan, & cheap words. Watch the actions. Huge pipe line to get more gas, & a big increase in coal fire to keep the lights on, & that after importing French nuclear power as well. Only the soft in the head actually believe wind & solar can supply the power a modern society needs.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 31 July 2021 9:51:25 PM
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Hasbeen, only the empty in the head believe that it can't. What you see as insurmountable obstacles are actually minor problems that can be easily overcome.

The coal phaseout in Germany is not a pipe dream nor cheap words, but law. It will happen - the biggest question now is whether they'll stick with the 2038 deadline or bring it forward.

>Watch the action
I suggest you take a look yourself - you'd notice that renewables are supplying Germany with twice as much power as they generate from coal.

>Huge pipe line to get more gas
Yes. They're not trying to phase out gas yet, and I never claimed they were. But as output from renewables grows, it's likely they'll become less reliant on gas.

>& a big increase in coal fire to keep the lights on,
I asked what your evidence for that was, and instead of providing any you merely repeated the assertion. I' had a look and couldn't find any evidence of any such increase last year, though there was an increase in the first half of this year due to the combined effects of a gas shortage, an unusually cold winter, and low wind conditions.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 1 August 2021 2:17:07 AM
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To see our best striving with every ounce of determination and courage to achieve for Australia, and the efforts of our blame-shifting and buck-passing "permanently bewildered" leaders, is striking, to say the least!

Our Olympians are lifting the spirits of the nation all while our bungling leaders are busy blame-shifting and buck passion like there was no tomorrow!? If there was a gold medal for the latter? They'd win it hands down!

Go and get vaccinated is the PMs call! And most would if there were sufficient supplies of Pfizer vaccine! We had the opportunity early in the pandemic to secure enough supplies to vaccinate the whole nation many months ago! But a complacent bean-counting government sat on laurels they never ever earned! But adroitly claimed a gold standard that started with the Ruby Princes.

Continue to resist invoking island quarantine or ensuring that airline crews and their drivers stay locked down in their own bubble between shifts. And because this is so, now have allowed the delta variant in!

Make no mistake, and I believe, the ultra-complacent Morrison government owns this outcome, the death toll and casualty rate that accompanies it!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 1 August 2021 11:20:10 AM
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