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Australia opens the gate for ASEAN agricultural workers : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 9/7/2021

Even with youth unemployment out at 10.5 percent, with the Reserve Bank of Australia warning unemployment is likely to worsen, rural Australia’s most pressing problem is a chronic shortage of labour.

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PS: they have already outsourced agricultural labour because they are frightened of making Australians work for their money/dole. Bludgers' votes are of the same value as hard workers' votes are.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 July 2021 1:22:11 PM
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There was a time when fruit picking was a well paid job. Farmers are now too used to having exploitable visa holders. They don't want Australians who know their rights.

There was also a time when many people would live part of the year on the dole and take seasonal or casual work at other times. Centrelink has set up disincentives against this. Unemployed people who are considering harvest work need to be assured that they can go straight back on the dole when the harvest is over.
Posted by benk, Saturday, 10 July 2021 4:49:02 PM
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diver,
I'm not happy to have anyone plundered - pay rates must comply with the relevant award and I would expect that to be enforced. However I don't share the xenophobic views that seem to be prevalent here. I am happy for Asian immigrants to come and do the work, and hope this policy will also be extended to refugees.

Your false dichotomy is irrelevant. There is, unfortunately, very little Australia can do to protect the rights of Asians in Asia. But I don't think there's much of a moral case for preventing them coming here and dong the sort of work Australians don't want to do. And I certainly don't approve of trying to force unemployed Australians into undesirable jobs instead of jobs more suited to their skillsets and preferences.

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ttbn,
I've got plenty of opinions of my own, and am willing to give you my opinion on any topic you'd care to nominate. But you have a track record of not wanting to read them!
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 10 July 2021 9:02:50 PM
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Aidan,

You say that you have ideas of your own, but you obviously don't think they will stand up to scrutiny, so you attack the views of others. Not once have you posted without criticising another poster. Your 'track record' is that of a miserable grinch and social misfit, with nothing to say that doesn't involve intolerance of people's right to say what they want think without your childish carping.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 11 July 2021 12:08:35 AM
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ttbn,
Criticising the views of others is a normal art of most internet discussion groups, and probably all the political ones! My doing so tells you nothing about whether my views stand up to scrutiny. You're free to respond to whatever I say to test whether they do, but instead you resort to whinging because you seem to want your own comments to be exempt from scrutiny even when they're ridiculously illogical!
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 11 July 2021 1:32:26 AM
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Aidan.

You have little to no knowledge on this subject, to me that’s obvious.

You are very welcome to remain ignorant, your choice; as ignorance can serve as a buffer to the pain which comes with facing off to the forces of evil which are aligned at us all; in this case Barnaby Joyce and the Liberal Government, under a professing Christian leader with scant evidence to show for it, and mimicking the malediction of lies and half truths, which aligns pretty closely to the morality of the good Sheriff of Nottingham, they sell Australians a “pup” .

However, if you begin to communicate on this subject sensibly, then I will be happy to engage with you.

And hot off the press at SBS, where the only thing of relevance to them is the immigrant, we have this:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/new-report-warns-some-migrant-workers-paid-less-than-2-an-hour-on-australian-farms

Not looking good for the immigrant apparently, right from the get go. The missing bit of information with this news release is, the farming sector have been scorching all and sundry since time immemorial.
Only when it happens to migrants does the fact of it seem matter!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 11 July 2021 10:59:42 AM
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