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It’s time to clean up not start up! : Comments

By Kerrie-Ann Garlick, published 12/3/2021

On the 10th anniversary of the Australian uranium-fuelled Fukushima nuclear disaster, it is time for a rethink on uranium Australia-wide.

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While I am on the subject a few points.
Electric cars are not related to CO2 problems at all.
Long term problems for the oil industry is where the electric car
move originates.
Does anyone think all motor companies all just deciding en mass to
stop making petrol and diesel vehicles and make electrics is just a
odd sort of coincidence ?
If you do then you need to read more widely.

Re the small nuclear power module systems. There is a company in the
US who has been trying to get one design approved, without success
last I heard. One problem we might have here with them would be a
supply of cooling water if they were used inland.
That something will have to be done because the people opposing
nuclear power have failed their primary school arithmetic.
They think as far as the Yallorn station is concerned that a
350 Megawatt/hr battery will backup the equivalent of the
1,500 Megawatt coal station in wind and solar.
Do the simple maths.
1500/350 = 4.28, divide (1 hour) by /4.28 = 14 minutes.
That is how long the battery will backup the closed coal stations
solar cells and wind.
I shouldn't poke fun I made a mistake there also !
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 14 March 2021 8:04:10 AM
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Our politicians have so many examples from overseas to learn from but do they take notice ? Nope !
Imagine the fertility of west of the GDR if only some of of the gits would engage their brains to think for the Nation instead of their own pockets & kick- started a Bradfield kind of scheme NOW. There'll never be another opportunity as now with so many people needing & wanting to get out of the congested cities to look for work.
Start a huge project in small affordable steps & in time it'll become self-supporting & people will start to appreciate the opportunities.
Same with NP stations, small ones but more. Particularly at Lake Eyre, cooling water wouldn't be problem were there a channel built from Spencer Gulf or thereabouts. Lake Argyle too could easily support a NP plant as could the Carpentaria Gulf area.
The opportunities are literally begging for brains to start engaging !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 14 March 2021 8:36:02 AM
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From Noel Wauchope. Three pages of comments on this article! And not one of them addresses the real message of the article!

It's easy to understand why they don't. Whenever any mention of uranium/nuclear issues appears on OnlineOpinion, there's a knee-jerk reaction on behalf of the nuclear lobby. It ranges ofrom an attack on the individual author, and on renewable energy technologies, to a hymn of support for nuclear power, especially for small nuclear reactors. In today's case there's even a bizarre claim about the Jews, not nuclear faults, causing the Fukushima catastrophe. (Even the pro nuclear lobbyists have a bit of trouble with that claim)

But, importantly, the article is an explanation of the need for Western Australia (and indeed, all Australia) to preserve the precious natural environment. The author advises the Western Australian government to take up this challenge, as environmental approvals for uranium licences are due to end, and legislate to ban uranium mining.

The commentators, so far, show no interest in this important matter of preserving Western Austra's environment, nor of the economic disaster that is uranium mining. Indeed - no understanding at all, of this article.

This situation looks like a bit of pro-nuclear-panic - probably msade worse by the historic re-election of a Western Australian Labor government that is not particulsarly keen on the nuclear industry.
Posted by ChristinaMac1, Monday, 15 March 2021 9:38:18 AM
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MOX

Where you write "Jewish influenced mainstream media...sabotage on behalf of Israel...dirty things some treacherous Zionists" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=21352&page=0#376914

WTF! You should leave your strange anti-Semitism to the likes of LEGO.

Just click here http://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/our-work-overseas .

Any connections matey? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-02/sonnenkrieg-division-first-right-wing-terror-group-listed/13206756
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 15 March 2021 11:30:30 AM
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From Noel Wauchope. Well this is a first for me - finding myself congratulating commenter Plantagenet. But I am glad to see his comment refuting the anti semitic remarks made by another commenter. I thought those remarks had been silly and ridiculous - but they are also nasty and hurtful.
Posted by ChristinaMac1, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:17:25 PM
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NUCLEAR NECESSARY DESPITE GREEN WANTS

Hi Noel Wauchope/ChristinaMac1

I think you're disappointed that commenters increasingly see the need for Nuclear base-load electricity.

More homes and (pro-Environmental full-electric plug-in) cars will need increasing amounts of Nuclear base-load energy as hydro-carbon power stations close down.

The anti-Semitic racist in this thread has been rightly disowned.

Australia's population growth need more power:

- Rooftop solar on high (tower block) and many medium density structures is inadequate for occupants.

- Solar farms can't keep up with mass city consumption.

- Windpower is unreliable, uses a lot of land, and needs to go offline at critical times.

- Hydro-power remains a marginal source in Australia's dry continent.

- Home and Large batteries are high energy intensive, chemically polluting to make, need regular replacement, and contain many toxic chemicals on disposal.

"Aware" often upper middle class environmentalist are frequently older, have made their money, and so are unrepresentative of most Australian "battlers" who need to get their hands "dirty". Put another way: Australia needs manufacturing, hydro-carbon (eg. gas) energy extraction and mining for people to work - jobs that aren't "green".

Even if Morrison loses the next Election, Labor's base still knows poeple demand jobs - jobs that will need increasing amounts of Nuclear base-load energy as hydro-carbon power stations close down.

Labor's other (environmental base) still relies on manufacturing/energy/mining wealth generation to trickle feed its
standard of living (especially in Perth).

1. A source https://ecos.csiro.au/baseload-power/ "Australia is currently aiming for around 23 per cent renewable energy"

2. Covid caused decline in demand for electricity in Australia is not typical of average high use years.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:31:45 PM
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