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Elon Musk and Bill Gates: beware of gurus toting solutions to climate change : Comments

By Noel Wauchope, published 4/3/2021

Their wealth and fame has made them all too ready to be seen as world leaders, and to see themselves as having the solutions to world problems.

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God..I feel like jumping off a cliff after reading this hype.

There is obviously a correlation between climate catastrophe fairy tales, and our apparent increase in mental health issues.

A look through the lens of this article and into the working brain of believers, shows the evidence for that link.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 4 March 2021 11:57:07 AM
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ttbn,

" Gates and Musk, although not the sorts of people most of us would have any time for, ..."

When the Californian government tried to close down factories in response to the WuFlu scare, Musk refused to play along and opened his Telsa factory in direct defiance of their made-up rules....
“Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules,” the billionaire CEO tweeted. “I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.”

I've got plenty of time for Musk, the most admirable of all the tech billionaires.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 4 March 2021 4:11:43 PM
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No matter what, the pollution we cause is highly alarming to say the least. We could do something to curb pollution but those who live off the taxes of manufacturers will never allow revenue to be reduced !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 4 March 2021 4:43:56 PM
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I can't believe that Gates and Musk are so dumb that they would fall for the global warming/CO2 scam.

That being the case they are promoting the scam to profit from it.

You would think they have enough money, so making more is just a game from them, & they obviously don't give a dam who, or how many they hurt doing it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 4 March 2021 4:44:04 PM
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Hi Taswegian

You're right when you say:

"...I see over 16 GW of Australia's 26 GW electricity demand comes from burning coal, oil and gas. Snowy 2 might help out with 2 GW (some of it stored coal energy) for a few days at a time. On top of 1-2% population growth we're supposed to junk fuel cars for EVs and rip out gas appliances in favour of electric so we'll need even more power."

http://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/construction-on-snowy-2-0-in-full-force/ says "Snowy 2.0 will deliver an extra 2,000 megawatts [MW] which is 2 Gigawatts (GW) as you rightly calculated.

And Snowy 2.0 suffers from at least 4 things:

1. "some of it is stored coal energy" as you say, to pump water up hill during off-peak use times.

2. The total cost of Snowy 2.0 has been constantly underestimated,

3. Snowy 2.0 is basically only a partial and declining impact solution, and

4. it just serves a limited market (the Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne) with too much loss to be effective for other major cities, I think.

So, all in all, other sources (and replacement sources) of baseload power are increasingly needed. Nuclear being a major part of the mix.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 4 March 2021 6:01:12 PM
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In 2019 Nuclear Energy was used in 30 countries. Many of them were the most advanced and environmentally aware countries.

For those 30 countries - at http://pris.iaea.org/PRIS/WorldStatistics/NuclearShareofElectricityGeneration.aspx in 2019 see the tables comparing them by:

1. Nuclear Electricity Production in GW(e). and

2. Nuclear as a source of baseload power as a % share of overall energy production.

As can be seen in 2. substantial users of Nuclear Energy include such environmentally aware countries as Belgium, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland and Canada.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 4 March 2021 6:09:11 PM
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