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No dancing past the fact we’ll have to live with Covid : Comments

By Steven Schwartz, published 23/2/2021

As COVID-19 trudges through endless revisions of rules and regulations, Australia's response to the virus is beginning to resemble the blackest of farces.

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Yuyutsu

I’ve read through your post three times now, and can find nothing deeper in consideration of COVID than a tadpole pond.

it seems obvious to me, you live a life of insulation and separation from real community pain, which has been exacerbated by COVID restrictions.
Things like losing a job leading to inability to pay the rent, so out you must go, for example.

While our thieving little Gladys gets off scott free with thieving $30m from NSW treasury for her boyfriends pleasure, she continues to parade around making the lives of NSW residents less tolerable with COVID restrictions.

What is desperately missing is some old fashioned honesty with the entirety of Government at all levels. After all, there are people in our communities living in desperation looking for accommodation; the basic necessities of life.
Where I live, this is a stark daily reality.

These homeless are not back packers. Where is the honesty?
What proportion of this population are on the street because of COVID, needs an honest answer.
Gladys idea of ticking off $2k fines for illegal overnight camping, in face of the fact she is an outright thief in a high place, is to me, intolerable!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 4:57:02 PM
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Dan. There's affordable housing in some of the regions!

Just not the infrastructure and transport options to make them available to the cohort you speak to.

Service industries everywhere and the here today and gone tomorrow jobs and alleged growth they support are just so vulnerable to economic downturns!

Governments need to understand that their traditional role is to step in and make stuff happen as opposed to cozying up to cronies/lining their own pockets?

And need to build regional industries, affordable energy, water supply, infrastructure and RAPID transport hubs!

Government needs to revert to its core responsibilities, not to sell all not nailed down and outsource core responsibilities? Just to support an idiotic idealogy and purile party politics?

And needs to think 40-50 years forward, with a well thought through regional plan and plan to finally decentralise! If we can't give folk jobs? then we at least need to give them hope and dreams to hold onto in times like these!

AND WITH THAT, A REASON TO BELONG AND COOPERATE FOR A COMMON GOOD!

WORDS MATTER AS DOES HONESTY AND INHERENT INTEGRITY!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 23 February 2021 7:42:32 PM
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AlanB

The primary action in waiting, is to restore interest rates to around ten percent.
That will cool the housing market, and add value to the currency.
Investors then can capitalise on money in the bank instead of the catastrophe housing is.

The most divided I’ve ever seen this country, is its current state where the government itself has manipulated the housing market through near zero interest rates, that add as a side effect, the ever divided losing class.

What is happening is values of fixed assets ( housing) is sky rocketing, as the pandered investor class, (which includes our corrupt politicians in on the game), are the new welfare recipients. The new bludging class!
If you need for an accurate description of what is a bludger, it’s property owners currently. They are squeezing the life blood out of this country.

Add to the above bludgers, foreign investors, invited in as a deliberate Government strategy to fuel property market bush fires, and the perfect storm is upon us.

The solution for Byron Bay homeless, is to fence in car parks for overnight campers.
There will be a charge of course, and a data base of the homeless car registrations.
One could easily speculate about the latter innovation.

Al, when rents go up, up they go everywhere. There is a tsunami of rising rents running in front of people forced from once affordable housing.
For many people there is little alternative to living in cars. Welcome to Australia, American style!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 8:48:19 PM
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The fact that people need to be ordered for their own safety is a sign of the state of affairs !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 6:17:47 AM
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Of course we could simply recognise that Trump had it right way back, & start treating Covid 19 with Hydroxychloroquine, Quercetin, Budesonide, or Ivermectin. We could do some real trials to find the most effective early intervention, but not much money in that is there.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 1:42:23 PM
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Dan I don't know if you have ever owned any property, but from your posts I doubt it.

So just to give you an idea;
My rates are, ... $3600 PA
My insurance, ... $2800 PA, this is higher for rental properties.
My maintenance, . $4200 PA, [average established over 29 years]

So if I were to rent my house out, I would need over $200 a week, just to cover my costs. Thus it costs me $203 a week to live in my own home.

To get even a 1% return on an $850,000 investment I would need another $163 a week. So I would need a minimum of $363 a week if I owned the property free & clear. If I had a mortgage it could easily be costing me another $300 a week in interest payments, even at today's rates.

Land lords should not be expected to be philanthropist, & are entitled to some return on their investment, after all they might like eating as much as the tenants.

While I agree with you that rents have become ridiculously high, so too have the costs of supplying rental property.

Incidentally you are wrong. Tenants under Covid laws are not kicked out. The land lord must simply absorb the cost of supplying the accommodation free of payment, & borrow the money to do so, if they don't have other cash flow to cover the cost.

In my opinion, you would have to have rocks in your head to become a land lord of residential property.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 2:32:21 PM
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