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In defence of Eddie McGuire : Comments

By Chris Lewis, published 19/2/2021

Rather, a balanced report should recognise the strengths, weaknesses and limitations of the Club’s recent response to racism.

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I'm a big fan of Eddie McGuire.

I absolutely loved him in 'The Nutty Professor'.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 22 February 2021 8:25:01 AM
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well the other site finally responded today after I asked this morning for a courtesy response.

They had two drafts, with the second identical to what was published here, but I was rejected for first time ever.

"Hi Chris Lewis,

Thanks for your effort submitting the article, In defence of Eddie McGuire and the Collingwood Football Club.

Our team of editors have reviewed your work and feel that it isn’t quite ready to publish.

This doesn’t mean you’re not heading in the right direction, and we’d encourage you to review your work and resubmit".
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 22 February 2021 10:22:16 AM
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ok, have now received detailed feedback that suggests some major faults with article.

I am interested in CM and others think with regard to this comment by one of the authors implying inherent racism at Collingwood FC. Please be objective rather than merely attack the man.

This on ABC

"Structural racism is usually something that sits within an organisation that has sat there since it was constructed with the original philosophy … A really good example is the Australian constitution, which has a structural racism, because when it was set up it was with the view that it should allow racial discrimination to facilitate a White Australia policy”.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 22 February 2021 1:03:43 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_racism

Societal racism has also been called structural racism, because, according to Carl E. James, society is structured in a way that excludes substantial numbers of people from minority backgrounds from taking part in social institutions.[2] Societal racism is sometimes referred to as systemic racism as well.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/list/982223.Carl_E_James

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According to James Joseph Scheurich and Michelle D. Young, racism can be categorized into five types

We need to research these Racism Researchers to find out their underlying reasons for their beliefs.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 6:27:31 PM
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CM, I am writing a new piece on that very topic, Collingwood FC and structural racism?

I will argue that the term does not apply to that Club when you examine evidence.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 7:32:56 AM
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Chris Lewis said- CM, I am writing a new piece on that very topic, Collingwood FC and structural racism? I will argue that the term does not apply to that Club when you examine evidence.

To Chris Lewis- This is a very noble cause.

If you can create some doubt as to the root of their so called "anti-racist" arrogance you have made great progress. As they say Rome wasn't built in a day.

Be prepared for a lot of extreme intimidation at any attempt to change the dialogue on this issue. Be prepared.

Small moves... but this can be very frustrating...

My suggestion is to stick with arguments that are hard to disprove- often this is just about how you phrase your comments.

For example- Rather than trying to prove your own comments get them to prove their assertions. Generally- no one can criticize you for the way you see things- you can say that you believe that others see things the same way as yourself- but if someone wants you to believe their ideas they need to convince you that their way is right- the thing is most people don't want to argue and will back down even in the face of the ridiculous. Integrity is an inch as they say- but that inch is contentious even in our own minds.

I usually insist that silent implicit group agreement is not enough and needs to be explicit.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:54:33 AM
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