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By Keith Suter, published 21/9/2020Scenario planning encourages us to 'think about the unthinkable'. Is China's continued rise inevitable? It seems to be at present but we must be ready to 'think about the unthinkable'.
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Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 21 September 2020 7:36:14 AM
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China is already in the beginning of the same downfall as the West, the interesting part is as to who can do it faster !
Posted by individual, Monday, 21 September 2020 7:51:02 AM
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I ran across this topical piece from Stan Grant posted yesterday:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-20/china-knows-its-place-in-the-world-can-australia-live-with-it/12672740 Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 21 September 2020 7:55:50 AM
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Very encouraging. Here's to the downfall of China, and the return of self-respect to the West.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 September 2020 9:45:14 AM
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The PRC government (namely what we call China) is a concern to all free thinking people, but I fear the author and some who have commented on the piece so far are partaking in a bit of delusional wishful thinking. Don't you think that the strategists in Beijing have run and rerun multiple scenarios of their plan to 2049?
China is on track and with recent skirmishes that include trade wars, cyber attack , Covid19, 'Belt n Road' ploys and the S China Sea infrastructure. As for potential internal instability.... it would be a brave revolutionary movement that tried that approach in China. Yes a united world could stop China (perhaps some believe the UN is the leadership for that one?!).... but does it want to?... I fear short-term politics and greed leads me to believe NO, they don't! Posted by Alison Jane, Monday, 21 September 2020 10:45:01 AM
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The pandemic is the elephant in the room for China. It has resulted in closed borders/a realisation just how much of everything we import from China.
The industrialisation has as rightly pointed out, come at a cost to food security. Security they thought they coud secure here by buying agricultural land holdings here, given some sad sack Aussies would even sell their Grandma or Grandkids' heritage for a couple of quid? Then there is the bully bboy tatics, which have proved so counterproductive. And the realisation just how much we have given away as an industrialised nation that once built motor vehicles and wait for it, planes and ships. We've always had an element of very short sighted bean counters, who invaribly dismiss the usual economic flow on factors from making, producing, value-adding and manufacturing our own stuff here. And are now forced by the pandemic to retool as rapidly as posible. China could assist with that retooling as opposed to continuing to shoot herself in the economic foot with BS tarrifs that force us to abandon her as a market we can count on to honour long standing commercial agreements. And who among ou now has an appetite to travel to China to see or do anyhng there? And Trump could stil win another term and keep applying pressure for a revalued Yuan. AS for us? We need to abando our own self imposed probhibition on nuclear enery abd some nuclear capability. I meam, even Turkey has fifty on loan! And possibly the only thing that may prevent a premature strike by a new military power, who could call on the North Koreans with a standing army of around a million, to do most the, on the ground grunt work for them? How would we hold back a million hungry, fanatical fighters, intent on removing us from every part of this land? Live on the land, in holes in the ground and resist? Burn, loot and plunder until one by one, caught and eliminated? And only because of an asinine, self-imposedd, prohibition on nuclear power/nuclear weapons! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Monday, 21 September 2020 11:25:25 AM
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Yes indeed, Alan is correct.
Our stupidly in ignoring nuclear power (while selling raw yellowcake), yet ignoring Chinas massive nuclear and fossil fuel expansion, is only compounded by our purchase of their flawed solar voltaic renewables which they impose on us through their control of the UN and hence via the IPCC quango! Funny that the ultimate goal of the Green Meanies is for us to be net zero emissions in the West, by 2050.... just the same date China plans to be top dog on the planet.... what a coincidence! and of course we will deliver it 1 year late and not in time to celebrate the 2049 centennial of the formation of the PRC. No doubt they will have a suitable punishment for our under performance and lateness! Posted by Alison Jane, Monday, 21 September 2020 12:27:32 PM
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We fear the CCP coz authoritarian rule (which we've got anyway) but does anyone stop and consider how frightening life under western democracy rule must appear to the average Chinaman. They'd see robber barons everywhere, children being indoctrinated into homosexuality and frogs and trees being valued over human life.
We're the ones keeping the CCP popular. Posted by jamo, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 9:47:14 AM
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China is also shooting itself in the foot. Cyberattacks and jailings won't help them sell Huawei products. Every Chinese student in the West brings home a taste for free speech. Barring an incident I think the China threat could be contained.