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By David Hale, published 11/9/2020Would you forgo all or part of a wage increase to top up the wages of the lowest paid workers?
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Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 September 2020 9:00:36 AM
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People without jobs - thanks to the panic and incompetence of Australian politicians with their stupid lockdowns - would probably like to have an actual job rather than hear this ninny rabbit on about pay rises.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 12 September 2020 10:43:13 AM
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ttbn,
Most of the Australians I know don't differ all that much from our politicians ! Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 September 2020 7:09:08 PM
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That could be the reason why we have the politicians we do.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 12 September 2020 11:54:00 PM
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Posted by Aidan-
"Canem, Many of the issues of poverty and homelessness in British culture go back to wrongs done 2000 years ago when the land was taken from the peasants. ITYM 200 years ago. And the claim's rather dubious, as the problem of poverty was taken very seriously in the 20th century, and homelessness is usually the result of unaddressed mental health issues, not mere poverty." Answer- There's too many people. There's "a lot of talk" about poverty in the 20th century and mentally ill homelessness but I view this differently. In the past due to less compact living, less red tape ,the churches role in local culture, closer communities- perhaps greater capacity to help locals even the mentally ill find shelter, etc. Government the panacea of "The Liberal Age" is a blunt instrument with many gaps. That doesn't mean there was necessarily less poverty. There's a balance between stability and flexibility but the unseen vulnerable are more exposed to "modern flexibility". I did mean 2000 years ago. 200 years ago in the Napoleonic Wars the peasants were long land dispossessed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookland_(law) "Folkland" was land held under ancient, unwritten folk-law or custom and by that custom it could not be alienated (i.e., removed) from the kin of the holder, except under special circumstances. The desirability of possessing unencumbered "bookland" in preference to "folkland" must have been immediately apparent to the laity, as Bede complained in a letter to Archbishop Ecgbert of York in 731, regarding the vast tracts of land acquired by "pretended monks" whose licentious interests were anything but Christian. To begin with, church land under bookright was exempt from taxation and immune from the trimodia necessitas, that is, the upkeep of bridges and fortifications on the land, and the provision of military service, or fyrd. These immunities were removed from church land by the end of the 8th century, perhaps in response to the situation of which Bede complains. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Poor_Laws (1349) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_English_land_law "The history of English land law... Roman times.. post-Roman chieftains... for most of human history, land was the dominant source of personal wealth." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primogeniture#Arguments Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 13 September 2020 2:43:10 AM
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As for getting the politicians we deserve, it is frightening how easily Australians (particularly Victorians) have been convinced that the government has the right to remove most of their freedoms on no more than a whim.
Australians are ripe for totalitarianism, and we don't need China to enforce it on us; we have the likes of Daniel Andrews and his politicised police goons here already. And, most Victorians support such terror against freedom of speech and thought. Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 13 September 2020 9:48:58 AM
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"This troubled planet is a place of the most violent contrasts. Those who receive the rewards are totally separated from those who shoulder the burdens.
It's not a wise leadership"