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Climbing the COVID mountain in 10 steps : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 19/8/2020

When Covid19 restrictions first changed the livelihood of Australians, it became obvious that our nation needed a plan to lead us into a new world.

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Everald is a man that's hard not to love.
Never give up son!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 8:20:23 AM
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Seeing the China virus as an opportunity is very strange, to say the least.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 9:51:19 AM
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Very nice pie in the sky wish list Everald! Although a little short on, how to, detail? All opposed at some level by very powerful players and their political lackeys! And by those welded to this or that idealogical imperitive or, you can't do that, thinking!

Yes, we could turn all the negatives into positives and I know how that could be done with absolute certainty and without creating any actual debt or any greater impost on the taxpayer!

But cannot see any reason to provide that imput when others are paid annual millions to borrow purloin/steal/provide it, while I exist in penury! A debate or fishing expedition for practical ideas when your own ideas larder, is empty?

Why don'tyou put your own, how to, ideas out there and let the usual (abusive) naysayers tell you all the reasons it won't/can't work? And one could add, in most instances, because they don't want it to or are terrified, it might?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 19 August 2020 11:17:07 AM
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A nice wishlist from a nice old chap with each

nice point having no logical outgrowth from COVID that is killing old people.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 11:26:36 AM
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The future belongs to a younger generation and not to old hasbeens who know all the reasons it can't be done or won't work! And they've been with us since the dawn of civilisaion opposing change for opposition's sake. If man were meant to fly, he'd have been born with wings, etc-etc. And as a litany from the luddites on down to mordern day radiophobics.

And welded to the spot by imagined/baseless, the sky will fall fear, rather than real or factual reason.

If our future is not a nuclear-powered future we will not have a viable future. If it is one controlled by small-minded bean counters? Ditto!

We just cannot keep repeating the old ideas and old (straight jacket/ fixed circle) thinking, Everald, all while expecting different outcomes!

Thinking inside a fixed circle of ideas, limits the questions and also, the acceptable ideas and by implication, the viable solutions/outcomes!

One of those outcomes has to be automation to the enth degree! Even in the old service industries. Automate or perish!

Productivity can not be further progressed by folk just working harder or longer, but in a (proven) four day week and by working from home wherever practicle or possible.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 19 August 2020 11:45:52 AM
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Probovali, ne rabotayet
Posted by jamo, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 7:37:02 PM
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There are a number of doable mega-projects that will pay for themselves and put a nation back to productive work!

An east coast very fast VLT!

New MSR, SMR thorium and nuclear waste burning power stations!

An inland shipping canal that gets Lake Eyre permanently full among other things and many co-op projects that will pay for themselves many times over! Plus, serve as a new water source to turn arid wasteland into highly prodiuctive climate-changing farmland!

And get our manufacturing back up and running and beating the pants off of all commers! Yes and it does include a rationalised car building industry!

But we and those projects/outcomes are hamstrung by risk-averse political players who cannot see the forest for the trees!

And some will even die in ditch before allowing one or any to proceed.

Others fearful of assuming responsibility will have a review of a review, a study of a study, as they hum and hah until hell freezes over.

Others now to timid to get out of bed, let alone make the bold decisions we now need as we run up the youngsters' credit card and mortgage their future prospect for what? SFA for them!?

Maintain the status quo and privilege? And little else, save voluminous hot air?

Or cannot see beyond a vaccine and rolling it out as the only project on the table!? And the only step they're likely to take when our prospects and our future demand so much more.

And confronted by strange blame shfting creatures caught frozen in the glare of the spotlight of personal responsibility for outcomes/a recovery!?

I rest my case.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 19 August 2020 8:39:52 PM
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An inspiring vision, Everald! I wish you well in its promotion and hope these ideas can gain some real traction. We need to start listening to Progressive economists and financial commentators like Stephen Koukoulas, Stephanie Kelton, Richard Denniss, Satyajit Das, Peter Martin and Michael Pascoe. We absolutely cannot afford to 'snap-back' to the old fossil-fuel-based business-as-usual once the Covid-19 risk has eased. The biggest challenge for any Progressive platform or Green New Deal is overcoming the fear-mongering and lies of the Murdoch press. Corbyn, Sanders and Shorten were all mercilessly demonised by the Rightwing press and their corporate backers. So yes, we need a plan with sustainability and fairness at its core and a leader who can inspire the nation and avoid being cut down by the Murdoch hacks and shock jocs. No small order ... and unfortunately in all likelihood an impossible dream!
Posted by Bronwyn, Thursday, 20 August 2020 12:36:01 AM
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How WILL they going to achieve this plan?

Its called 'predictive reaction', an essential part of today's social engineering.

Predictive Reaction turns the Hegelian Dialectic of Problem, Reaction, Solution into a science;
And all the people become muppets manipulated by someone else hand.

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If you think I'm wrong then take this article:
Morrison walks back comments on potential Covid vaccine, saying 'it is not going to be compulsory'
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/19/scott-morrisons-talk-of-mandatory-covid-vaccine-is-dangerous-experts-warn

QUOTE>>“So if you jump to talk of coercive measures, you can risk getting what we call ‘reactants’, which is a kind of anger that you see when you talk up people having to do something before you’ve even had a go at using all the other measures available to do something, if indeed it’s worth them doing it, and it’s effective to do that.<<

Even though they have every intention of making the vaccine mandatory, the official policy is 'We're not going to talk about that', because it may have a reaction that is counter productive to their goals.

- A reaction that promotes 'Vaccine Hesitancy'.

They want a different outcome, so they immediately start talking about the type of measures they will use to achieve what they want without the pushback.

QUOTE>>Efforts to combat vaccine hesitancy are complex and multifaceted. A paper in the Lancet last year said the advice of doctors had been shown to be the most important predictor of vaccine acceptance, making it crucial that health workers were given the tools and resources they needed to communicate with patients.

Governments and health policymakers also had a critical role to play, the paper said, including through public education, the promotion of vaccination, and policies that reduce public health risks associated with hesitancy.<<

Their stated aim is to AVOID doing things that promote 'hesitancy';
Which is probably why ScoMo walked back those comments, not because he's not planning to make it mandatory, but because discussion of the issue promotes 'hesitancy'.

Government talk of mandatory vaccines is counter-productive, because the push for mandatory vaccines will come from big business.
http://brassballs.blog/home/employers-will-to-enforce-mandatory-vaccinations-george-oneill-rockefeller-heir-foundation-mr-pandemic-yearly-flu-vaccines-required-to-go-back-to-work
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 August 2020 4:18:41 AM
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[Cont.]
As for your list, none of those things are directly related to Coronavirus.

These people are just attempting to use it to push through the measures they wanted in the first place.

http://brassballs.blog/home/man-who-started-pandemic-rockefeller-george-oneill-d-jr-barr-evidence-log-nixon-foundation-butina-maria-mariia-potomac-nato-michelle-bachelet-un-human-rights-commission-hb-7120-house-bill-tenex

I'm telling you, the UN, NATO, the WHO, and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are all the same damn thing.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 August 2020 4:24:20 AM
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1. A job for you if you want one.

'A significant increase in part time and casual employment'

So, work till you die, in a lifetime of part-time and casual employment.

2. You will get wage increases that will be greater than your cost of living.

On part-time of casual employment, that I'll have to do until I die, because I'll never be able to get a full weeks work or get anywhere?

'thereby enhancing your stature in the workforce'

Yes because we were born for the purposes of slave labour / wage labour doing the kind of stuff the people who came up with this plan would never ever do.

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3. Your education and lifestyle will be enhanced by ever improving science and technology.

The same science and technology that brought us 'gain of function' weaponsing of live viruses, and ANTIFA?

- No Thanks

4. Your nation will lead the world by making climate change the driver of economic growth and prosperity.

I don't want my nation to lead the world by making climate change the driver of economic growth and prosperity.

What you're doing here is promoting Blackrock's plan.
And destroying our nations soverignty and putting it into the hands of foreign unelected beaurecrats, and you use children like Thunberg to manipulate others.

Your plan is 'ends justifies the means' and is sick.

5. You will participate in the regeneration of Inland Australia, especially in its indigenous and remote communities, by investing in land conservation and restoration, clean water and the enhancement of flora, & fauna while creating low cost and efficient transport that which expand your opportunities to trade profitably.

So, you're going to take more of the workers taxes to spend on things they don't need. The billionaires want to take money away from families, to build up the desert?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 August 2020 5:10:54 AM
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6. You will demand fairer taxation that will ensure that tax cheats pay their dues and your taxes become lower.
Tax on revenue instead of profits?

Yeah ok lets start with the multinationals?
Awww, let me guess they're going to be exempt of have some loopholes right?

7. Housing will become affordable for your income level.

We could do that now, but we don't.
Because you economists say the country would go broke if the building stopped, or prices slumped

8. Gender equality will enable you to achieve your maximum personal potential on a level playing field.

Actually, now that you have diversity quotas as opposed to hiring on a basis of merit, being a white male, you have unlevelled the playing field and reduced my maximum personal potential.

9. Rebuild cities and towns so you can enjoy quality lifestyles in vibrant communities that are cohesive, compassionate and safe.

Well, stop promoting immigration then and the cities wouldn't become so clogged and unlivable.

10. Pioneer a new style economic community in our immediate region of the Southern Hemisphere that involves a revolutionary partnership of Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea and Pacific Island Nations that creates a high level of prosperity and social values.

Oh, you mean like the North American Union, The African Union,
etc, like the Gomberg map?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_the_Post-War_New_World_Map

That map was made before the war.
Just like the Pandemic Preparedness Plan and Bail-out plan were drawn up before Coronavirus
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 August 2020 5:11:28 AM
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