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Death from the sky: Hiroshima and normalised atrocities : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 10/8/2020

On a certain level, it was merely another weapon, one to use, a choice sample in the cabinet of lethal means and measures.

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Another history Lesson Binoy

President Harry S. Truman did not have a 'tired' mind.
He was installed as Vice President in January 1945. In April 1945, after the death of FDR, he became 33rd US President. In May 1945 he oversaw the surrender of Nazi Germany. During his period he ordered the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki sometime before August 1945.

Hardly, if anything, in the lead up to the bombing, could be shown to have possibly tired him in the seven months of his presidenc..

In the 'wheels' of Truman's mind not only did the American casualties, worry him but he also considered the Japanese casualties and the civilian suicides.
Iwo Jima:
Imperial forces deaths 21,000
US forces deaths. 7,000
US wounded. 18,000
Civilian Suicides. 200 estimate. Half the civilian casualties.

Okinawa:
Imperial forces deaths 110,000
US forces deaths. 12,500
US Wounded 36,000
Civilian Deaths. 149,000 (half the Civilian Population.

While the death rate was horrifying, particularly on Okinawa, foremost on Truman's mind, as commander - in - chief, would have been the force required, in both men and equipment, to overcome resistance on the Japanese homeland especially given the amounts needed to overcome the resistance on both Iwo Jima and Okinawa.

I'm sure given the experience on Okinawa he would not have wanted to be responsible for the deaths of 36 million Japanese civilians. (1945 Population 72.2 million.)

Dropping the bombs, showed the Imperial Japanese they would be defeated without a single Allied death. My uncle was to be among the NZ troops landing on the Japanese homeland.
Truman is the greatest leader ever ... while he was responsible for approximately 250,000 atomic bomb deaths he saved more lives than anyone before or since in history.

He also served the troops he led. He saved them the need for sacrifice by not invading in force.

I disagree, Truman wasn't an agent unfettered by history. Truman was a great US President and military leader who made history and who shaped the future.

His legacy to us all should not be cheapened with a shallow re-write such as yours.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 17 August 2020 12:02:39 PM
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Another little footnote Binoy

China.
The US ending of the war saw another unintended consequence in your 'battered' Asia.
The soviets were also involved in fighting Japanese /imperialists ... in China.
However their campaign began, on the 9 August, after formally declaring war on Japan on 8th August 1945, two days after Hiroshima.
The lead up to that were the discussions between the Allies at Tehran in 1943 and more importantly Yalta in Feb 1945, prior to FDR's death.

When the conflict ended in 1945, the Communist Soviets, gave all their arms to the Communist Chinese of Mao. Nothing was given to the official Nationalist Government and forces of Chiang Kai-shek.
Even then it took the communists, with all that assistance, until 1949 to defeat the Nationalists on the mainland.

Some claim it was the declaration of war by the Russians, rather than the bombing , that finally swayed the Japanese imperialists to surrender.
I confess I don't know. Perhaps its an aspect that appeals to you. you might research and write about that.

btw Japan and Russia, on paper, are still at war.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 17 August 2020 12:43:56 PM
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