Taswegian this is a great list

That includes increasing (not decreasing) per capita GDP,
less than 0.5m on what used to be called Newstart,
less than 0.5m officially underemployed,
average housing cost less than 25% of median income,
elective surgery waiting lists under 3 months, and
an end to water wars.

What a wonderful country for the average person to live in. Of course, neither labor or liberal cares about the average person.

Loudmouth2 Hope is not a plan.

How about you send me $20,000 to invest for you. I don't have a plan for making a profit for you but I really hope it will work out. That should be good enough for you, right

Unclear and confusing analysis citing and relating migration, net migration and population targets.

Further, Howard was not directly responsible for an increase in net migration but a statistical spike due to expansion of the NOM definition by the UN in 2006, was.....

What we have observed is an increase in temporary churn over of net financial contributors helping to fund budgets to support services and pensions for increasing numbers of Australian retirees, without increasing taxes, with a proportionate decline of working age tax payers in the permanent population.

Hands up who wants to stop or dramatically decrease this churn over and pay higher taxes, or go without services?

Within one generation, if not already, the developed and less developed nations will be in competition for working age migrants as the global population peaks, becoming older and browner.

OK Andras Smith,

Why do countries with little or no population growth, from immigration or otherwise, rank high on the UN Human Development Index? Japan has actually been an extremely successful country, despite a declining population and very little immigration.

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/japans-economic-miracle/

Less (or no) population growth just gives you higher participation rates, not labour shortages. It also puts less pressure on the environment. Our State of the Environment Reports have shown progressive deterioration over the years, as the population has grown and human demands have increased. Back in 2010, the Australian Conservation Foundation nominated human population growth in Australia as a key threatening process under the Environmental Protection Act.

http://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/pages/87ef6ac7-da62-4a45-90ec-0d473863f3e6/files/nomination-human-population-growth.pdf

Nor is there any evidence that human well-being, as opposed to aggregate GDP, has been improved by mass migration. The 2006 Productivity Report on Immigration found that there is only a very small per capita benefit, which goes to the owners of capital and the migrants themselves. Currently, wages are stagnant, housing is far less affordable, congestion is worse, infrastructure is overloaded, etc., etc.

Even if you were correct, you would be proposing a Ponzi scheme. Migrants grow old, just like everyone else, cannot be deported when they have outlived their value to the economy, and will also need pensions and health care. What do we do then?

Agreed Divergence. The notion that taxes go up and government services get worse is just plain false.

Cities like Vienna and Copenhagen that don't have to cope with rapid population increase are able to improve services and develop innovative environmentally friendly projects rather than rush through projects to try to keep up with the burgeoning population. Anybody think the light rail would have been rushed through if Sydney's population wasn't increasing by 200,000 year after year? How's that going?

All the tunnel roads across Sydney are many times more expensive than they would have been, if planning could proceed at a less desperate pace.

Andras Smith isn't the first, and won't be the last to preach the lie that we are doomed economically without the ponzi scheme of constant high immigration and population growth. No mention of flat wages from Andras and certainly no mention of congestion and environmental degradation.

Divergence,

'What do we do then' ?

You could always campaign for the use of Solent Green. But only for your out-groups .....

Joe