Sells,

<<I take exception to your suggestion that I cling to PC rather than scripture. The difference between us is not between scripture and PC but our different ways of interpreting scripture. For my part, you cannot simply import the moral dispositions from scripture into our time.>>

Please show me where the Scriptures support homosexual marriage. Or, are you saying that the postmodern, PC worldview is more harmonious with today's society than biblical Christianity?

'For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.'

Could not be much clearer

Peter,

<<It is impossible for the Church to maintain its position on sexual acts now that the sexual activities of priests towards minors and the concentration of same sex attracted men at the highest offices of the Vatican has been revealed.>>

Following your approach, it would be impossible for me to support the supermarket that supplied me with rotten potatoes in the bag. Yours is nonsense reasoning. Bad apples do not make for a rotten crop.

<<For my part, you cannot simply import the moral dispositions from scripture into our time. You certainly do not do that but only cherry pick the verses you think support your case.>>

Since Golgotha, we are under the New Covenant and the moral strictures for the nation of Israel were under the Old Covenant / Old Testament.

If you dispose of 'moral dispositions' from the New Testament, please tell if where I will be or not be one minute after my last breath.

runner,

<<For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting....>>

That passage from Romans 1 could not be clearer but perhaps Sells would say to you what he said to me: <<you cannot simply import the moral dispositions from scripture into our time. You certainly do not do that but only cherry pick the verses you think support your case>>.

What do you and I do with our interpretation of the New Testament? I trust that we both take the whole of the NT seriously and do not cherry pick verses.

This morning I listened to a live-streamed Christian message from a Qld church where the preacher found plenty of applications for today from the Book of Joshua, without saying God was obliged to repeat what he did for Joshua.

ozspen

'That passage from Romans 1 could not be clearer but perhaps Sells would say to you what he said to me: <<you cannot simply import the moral dispositions from scripture into our time. You certainly do not do that but only cherry pick the verses you think support your case>>.'

Yes Ozspen. Sells raises the topic and choosing the scriptures that relate to that topic is hardly cherry picking as you know.

What do you and I do with our interpretation of the New Testament? I trust that we both take the whole of the NT seriously and do not cherry pick verses. '

I agree Ozspen. It's not what we don't know that is a problem , its what we do know which is a challenge to do what is written clearly for all to see.

I really don't know why people like Sells bothers when it is clear they are intent on twisting Scripture to suite their ideology rather than the other way around.