'These deniers could have water up around their necks and they still wouldnt admit it was climate change.
Nothing trumps(haha) their ideology. EVER!'

Mikk gets confused by Noah's flood which actually did happen.

Mikk,

Pretty much all of us would agree that there is a level of climate change, and part of it due to an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere, which in turn is due to the massive increase in the burning of fossil fuels over the pat two hundred years.

And most of us would also agree that sea-levels have risen maybe two inches in two hundred years.

Not exactly up around our necks.

The tides here in Adelaide go up and down about a metre, twice a day.

Joe

runner, if the deniers had water up to their necks, they must have taken a wrong turn somewhere and ended up in the ocean, or someones swimming pool.
The deniers are gaining ground on an issue there was no ground to gain,because it was always a con job.
It all started when someone found out that the planet goes through warming and cooling cycles naturally, and by itself.
When it goes through a warming cycle, which happens every few hundred years, CO2 is released from such places as the oceans.
So it's not humans that are to blame for any CO2 increase.
It's the planet, and BTW, first the planet warms up, THEN and only after it warms up does it release CO2.
Got it now?
So burning fossil fuels has nothing to do with CO2, nor do we.
Can I get back to doing nothing now?
I find it eminently more worthwhile than explaining a very simple principal that is common knowledge to any student.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRRXZ1B5foE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJ6TI8ccAw

Give these a look in.

ALTRAV
'The deniers are gaining ground on an issue there was no ground to gain,because it was always a con job.'

I could not agree more ALTRAV. In the 1980's I was aware of the absolute crap pseudo scientist were saying about the Ozone layer. This man made gw garbage has been around for a long time. I was stating this long before Australia was stupid enough to elect Rudd to power. Even back then the likes of Foxy and other gullible people were jumping on the bandwagon on olo. Rudd claimed it was the 'greatest moral dilema of the century'. He is of the same ilk as Turnbull. They both showed you only need to be crafty to be PM of this country but not to smart.

My reference to Noah's flood was to highlight how many ignore real issues due to their depravity and take up fake issues like man made gw. It turns kids into virtue signallers while not really undestand how depraved their generation is.

Runner your last comment re youth is spot on. Unfortunately, we have allowed left-wing greenies to direct the education system to teach kids the GW scam is true science at its purist and most virtuous.

I know parents who call themselves scientists ( just because they did a degree 30 years ago), BUT wouldn't dare challenge their kids on the subject. If that is not indoctrination?, Himmler must have been an angel of goodness!

'Unfortunately, we have allowed left-wing greenies to direct the education system to teach kids the GW scam is true science at its purist and most virtuous.'

Makes you wonder how some of these 'science' teachers can even work out how to press the play button for the Al Gore type propaganda. I was a goose at school but not half as naive as these social engineers.