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Incendiary extinctions: Australian fires and the species effect : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 13/1/2020

Australian governments, across colours and persuasions, have found managing the environment a problematic, and inconvenient affair.

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Binoy's watermelon credentials are showing well through this piece. His far left attitude leads him to blame the wrong people for this result.
The disaster is caused by green attitudes & pressure on a totally incompetent national park administration.

Of course the national park management are on a hiding to nothing, since lefty governments took productive well managed native Forrest, & made them national parks, to buy a few green preferences. It worked too. We got incompetent lefty governments, particularly in Victoria & South Australia, with hugely increased national parks, with no capacity to manage them.

Who killed these native animals Binoy, it was the Labor governments in Victoria & earlier in NSW & South Australia with no fire management in the huge areas of bush, no longer maintained as previously by the forest industry.

Close every national park, give the areas to forestry, & private citizens, & your screaming kolas will be much safer than with a greeny controlled national park management running the forests.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 13 January 2020 11:29:45 AM
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There have been bigger fires? And how many homes were burnt to the ground how many lives claimed how many native animals burnt alive?

There were allegedly bigger fires in the 1800s in sparsely populated Victoria that killed hundreds of thousands of sheep. But this and the fires in NT are not comparative. The NT has regular wet seasons that usually extinguish all fires, maintain wetlands/rainforests/natural firebreaks. In the 1800s In Vic, the area was very sparsely populated and there was an extreme shortage of fire trucks and water bombers!

The fires in NT didn't threaten major populations and may have been mostly done to allegedly "manage" pasture land? One of those so-called cool burns that as often happed, got away and was left to burn itself out?

And not apples with apples comparison in either example! I'd imagine the Daly could be made to saturate its adjacent landscape with a series of weirs every mile or so along the river. A metre-high weir thirty metres wide can generate enough power for as many as thirty households.

Trenches 100 metres apart dug out 1-300 metres from the (levy) riverbank can be made to spread this water into vast tracts of subsequently saturated and highly productive land. That will become a natural sanctuary and firebreaks Somewhere to graze the cattle during the big dry.

Similar engineering earthworks along every major waterway the length and breadth of the nation would change it forever as would some large northern dams that then forced water back into former western waterways, which even then, could also benefit from the engineering as above!

And until this is done and similar, we will remain the driest inhabited continent on earth and from time to time in similar perilous circumstances!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 13 January 2020 11:48:29 AM
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SR: Ok, if you want to play this game. Then look at the list I linked to and total the 1974/1975 season but exclude the Northern Territory, Western and South Australia because we assume that they are arid area fires.

We have (in acres)-
NSW : 11,000,000
QLD : 19,000,000
Total: 30,000,000*

So still, these current fires are not unprecedented and are *so far* not the worst bushfire season ever which the media relentlessly is trying the portray it has.

*Excluding NT=110,000,000 WA=72,000,000 SA=42,000,000. If we included these then the total is a staggering 254,000,000 acres which completely dwarfs the current season.
Posted by thinkabit, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:11:08 PM
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' Miners, rights, not Earth rights, are what counts.'

what on earth is 'Earth rights'. Only those ignorant enough to ignore their Creator starts talking about earth rights.

And as far as Governments managing the earth then we should get rid of every Green counselor and politician who have contributed in locking up forests and national parks, protesting against prescribed burns and allowing the fuel to build up for decades. A bit of a no brainer however the earth worshippers who believe in earth 'rights' will stick to their very pathetic anti coal gw narrative.
Posted by runner, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:16:10 PM
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I don't like to compare the harvesting of seventy three million sharks per year, as a contribution to a Chinese aphrodisiac shark fin soup, to a handful of Koala bears in a bushfire, but I will.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:23:42 PM
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Droughts in Australia have been the main cause of fires threatening humans. Also increasingly building homes or having existing homes/structures in fire-prone areas.

Droughts know no ideology, be it the ideology of the Left or of OLO's Murdoch Parroting Right.

More sensible people in between should try commenting.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 13 January 2020 3:33:03 PM
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