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Trump’s embrace of white supremacy is poisoning America’s soul : Comments
By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/8/2019Trump spent over a million dollars on Facebook ads with the word invasion in big letters to spread fear among his constituents.
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This 'white supremacy' rubbish is such a yawn. According to this author and other sensationalists, anyone who is not a certified Left-wing twat is a white supremacist.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:08:06 AM
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Trump’s embrace of white supremacy is poisoning America’s soul :
Alon Ben-Meir, To me, the above line is total & absolute hate Speech ! Posted by individual, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:31:29 AM
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Predictably OLO's OVER-REPRESENTATIVE band of WHITE SUPREMACISTS will blame the
Left, Hispanics, UN, Governments and especially Muslims, for White Supremacist Terrorist MURDERS. Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:33:09 AM
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Only a fully qualified Trump hating ratbag could blame Trump for the fact that there are mental cases in a population of 330,000,000.
What else would you expect from someone with that name, who teaches Global Affairs at NYU. He teaches courses on international negotiation and Middle Eastern studies, for gods sake, obviously his sympathies are with those who Trump is pulling back into line, after the free rain Obama gave them. A fully fledged swamp member. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:24:30 PM
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Hasbeen,
"That name" is Jewish. Does that make any sense ? Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:42:05 PM
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What a total load of crap.
Trump isn't tearing the country apart it's people like you that keep trying to socially engineer the future against the will of the existing citizens. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:21:24 PM
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It is what it is and America's finest that money can buy, democracy and a first past the post voting system, plus an inordinately powerful, electoral colleague, put a patently flawed white supremacist in the white house.
What the Americans decide to do about their gun laws and crazies getting guns is down to them. Video games? Well, many other counties have equally violent video games! It has to be something else? How about the undiagnosed unhinged antisocial misfits who should never ever be allowed to own a firearm having virtually unfettered access to firearms of choice! Military or not, bolt or automatic action. Any firearm in the wrong hands can kill! Conversely, one cannot blame firearms! Firearms are just engineered inanimate objects that do nothing of their own violation. It is and always was the hands that hold the weapon that kills! And the hand that rocks the cradle that controls the world! If there is barely veiled civil unrest? It has to do with the deal and the fact that the rich always get richer and the poor get poorer and the gap between the haves and the have nots just gets wider and wider! And complete calloused indifference on the part of policymakers like an insatiable Trump? And the rusted-on support base, mad hatter' tea party, intent for all practical purposes on self-destruction!? Economic and social! I mean the Great depression was proceeded and caused by too much of our finite wealth concentrating in too few hands! And a far as America goes? Nobody with power or money there seems to have learned the lessons of history or taken a blind bit of notice of any of it!? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:55:38 PM
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Trump is also being called a white supremacist for activities at the US/Mexican border. Like all white haters they forget Trumps job as President is to protect the border from illegal immigration and also it is his responsibility to ensure legal immigration includes those who are compatible with American values, definitely not white hating nationalities and those who choose not to assimilate into western cultural ways.
Posted by Galen, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 2:20:13 PM
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Galen,
Central American immigrants and refugees ? Aren't they almost all Christians, Catholic, and wanting to work ? At the jobs that Americans don't want to do ? Picking fruit and vegetables and factory work ? Maybe I've got that wrong: they are all taking American jobs, AND all wanting to live on welfare at the same time ? Either way, there's something wrong with them ? It's ironic that this 'fence' cuts across US states which, 170 years ago, were parts of Mexico. What goes around, comes around. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 2:33:44 PM
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Hi ttbn, indi, AC, Hasbeen, Joe (sooner or later, from the USA) LEGO
White supremacists are in conflict with the Jew. That august publication the Jewish News Syndicate reports August 2, 2019, http://www.jns.org/58-jewish-groups-gather-in-new-york-to-mobilize-against-anti-semitism/ "Jewish groups gather in New York to mobilize against anti-Semitism The end result? Jews need to “get angry” and get active. Attending conferences, acknowledge Jewish leaders themselves, does not address the scourge that’s growing around the world." (August 2, 2019 / JNS)...“We have reached the end of the age of deniability and innocence. We need to build coalitions everywhere and anywhere,” he stated. ...While violent attacks in the United States have come from individuals identified as being on the far right of the political spectrum... ...David Harris, CEO of the American Jewish Committee, noted that while the most violent attacks in the United States over the past year were perpetrated by white nationalists, in Europe, the situation is reversed. “In Europe, unlike Pittsburgh, Poway, and Charlottesville, [Va.], every Jew killed was killed by a jihadist—an issue that the left in Europe was unwilling to touch,” he said. Greenblatt strongly warned against “white nationalism, which is a global and domestic terror threat” that is a “threat to us all.” While none of the leaders proposed answers to the root causes of anti-Semitism, part of the conference focused on providing better protection for Jews, particularly in Jewish institutions..." So after the white "brothers" deal with the MUSLIMS and liberals when to turn on the JEW? Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 2:48:28 PM
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Hi plantagenet,
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. "So after the white 'brothers' deal with the MUSLIMS and liberals when to turn on the JEW?" Is this what you think is happening? If so you'd be just another useful idiot. Please, don't let others do the thinking for you. Now I'll ask you a question. In regards to Anti-Semitic Hate Crime Hoaxes; What was the MOTIVE for Israeli-American Michael Ron David Kadar's 591 bomb threats to Australian Jewish Schools? I was talking about this stuff the other day; http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8877&page=0#288348 I could've and probably should've said more the other day but I choose not to. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 4:13:39 PM
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Where do you think all this equality and pc crap comes from? https://www.jta.org/2014/11/30/archive/from-the-archive-jews-welcome-the-stranger Who changes the laws to bring the Muslims in? https://www.jstor.org/stable/27503587?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents ^ Read the preface Who promotes the very idea of 'hate crimes'? http://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/hate-crime - And none of this stuff will make any sense to you if you don't understand this - http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8877&page=0#287985 Read the whole thread This Here -> Albert Pikes 3 World Wars http://youtu.be/GtGnPiZRB50 <- (Can I make it any more obvious or do I need to should I write in CAPS?) Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 4:54:31 PM
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AMERICAN JEWS and MUSLIMS are 'NATURAL ALLIES' with CLOSE BONDS, study finds.
HuffPost March 5, 2019 http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/jewish-muslim-allies-ispu_n_5cc9e017e4b0d123954d74ba “Both groups have endured religious discrimination. Both have had houses of worship desecrated. And both are increasingly seeing the other as allies. ...Recently, they’ve also been grieving the rise of WHITE NATIONALIST violence and planning how they will respond to both anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. ...Both groups are minorities in the U.S. who report facing religious discrimination. They are both becoming increasingly anxious about the threat WHITE SUPREMACISTS pose to their communities and houses of worship...” Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 7:27:49 PM
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Trump isn't tearing the country apart ..
Armchair Critic, Correct ! The only tearing apart is the hangers-on brigade doing the tearing themselves in a massive panic. They realise now that their bandwagon is rolling to a stop & those whom they've been bludging off want them to perform for their money. No great mysterious science there. Trump definitely instigated a revolution & those who put each other on the pedestals are now very, very jittery ! The time is approaching where results are asked for in return for big money, Academic rhetoric & bureaucratic Gobbledeegook have exhausted the patience of the real performers in the revenue circles ! Posted by individual, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 7:29:53 PM
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I love seeing property investors paranoid about a Jewish take over.
Don't worry on two levels: level one, there'll be an abundance of the homeless to witness the property investor street demonstrations against the banks...haw haw haw. Level two: Worry not for all Jews are destined for hell, since they refuse to become Christians and believe in salvation through the Christian Christ. Dan Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 9:32:10 PM
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Whoops...missed level three. Lift out of control...wop wop wop (sound of lift emergency alarm)...finally stopping at level 1984...doors slide open revealing UFO launching pad...
Dan Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 9:39:40 PM
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Jews have had it in for Christians since the Old Testament was made obsolete.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 9:58:51 PM
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Dear Alon (the author), . I think it’s worth recalling that in the US presidential election of 2016, Hilary Clinton won the popular vote by a margin of 2.87 million out of a total of 137 million votes for the whole of the USA. Whereas, Donald Trump won the Electoral College vote at the state level – the only one that counts for the election of president – with 304 votes compared to Clinton’s 227. Donald Trump did not win the popular vote. He lost it. Hilary Clinton won the popular vote by a 2% margin despite the fact that : • She happened to be a woman and no woman has ever been president of the US • It was revealed during the presidential campaign that : 1. she had used a private server for email during her tenure as Secretary of State (minister of foreign affairs) from 2009 to 2013 – thus contravening national security regulations. 2. she looked very shaky on her legs on video coverage that went viral just prior to the election • She underestimated the importance of unemployment of white working-class voters in key states Donald Trump lost the presidential election at the national level but won it at the state level. Hilary Clinton won it at the national level but lost it at the state level, where, in all states but two (Maine and Nebraska) the “winner takes all” rule applies. It is evident that there has been a certain radicalisation of Trump’s discourse since he became the 45th president of the United States of America but that is a double-edged sword which, in my humble opinion, could be much more useful for committing hara-kiri than for slaying anybody’s opponents. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 15 August 2019 6:50:49 AM
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Politicians of the extreme right and control freak left, cannot complain if their divide and divide machiavellian machinations come back to bite them on the political bum and leave once cohesive societies so badly fractured and blame-shifting, they like Humpty can never ever be reunited ever again!
Guns can kill but only in murderous hands intent on destruction, ditto clubs, knives, motor vehicles, fence palings, star pickets, crowbars crossbows, shovels, axes, sledgehammers, pinball hammers, and all manner of homemade bombs and bows/arrows! Switzerland has as many guns per head of population as the US but nothing like the killed by guns or gun related suicide rate? Japan is awash with violent video games as are many other countries, so video games cannot be blamed! What might be blamed is AWOL social justice outcomes or rather their lack and bubbleheads like a six times bankrupt Trump just leaving a trail of financial destruction and ruination in his wake as he and his financial parasitic class, appropriate more and more finite wealth. And do nothing real to address unmet need or legal slavery in the great unwashed. Babies are not born hating difference to the point of taking up arms and going on a killing spree! This sort of hate has to be inculcated from the cradle and by the dominant social institutions and divide and rule politics. Don't blame inanimate pieces of metal and wood for the failings of the parents, the tribe and societies! Be careful what you wish for or initiate with intemperate language, just to gain or stay in power! Time for leaders with vision to reunite fractured societies, none more visibly fractured than the once-mighty US of A! And has to begin with another new deal, the rebuilding of America and true social justice outcomes where the economy serves all the people, not visa versa! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 15 August 2019 9:56:07 AM
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Remember Alan B.
Most gun deaths in the US are not what you term "murderous". "Nearly two-thirds of gun deaths are suicides: - The U.S. gun suicide rate is 10 times that of other high-income countries. - Access to a gun increases the risk of death by suicide by three times see http://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-america/ In the US "Children are particularly impacted by the intersection of domestic violence and gun violence. - For children under age 13 who are victims of gun homicides, 85 percent of those deaths occur in the home see http://everytownresearch.org/impact-gun-violence-american-children-teens/ Also the bizarrely threatening is the right to openly carry guns in public, visible in holters, is legal in many US states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States Unlike more civilised countries many Americans have a peculiar macho attitude to guns. They feel like real men "packing heat". Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:07:15 PM
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I would like to make a suggestion that we listen a little more closely to the comments from AC.
I have found his, (and some others) to be of sound reasoning and having wisely and seemingly focused approach to researching and familiarising themselves with issues of his/their choosing and of particular interest to the public at large. AC has, I can confirm, a firm understanding of the elite Jews and their long term plans of world domination. Yeh, I know, sounds far fetched, well only to those who have a narrow or naive view of life and people. An example of this is, over time I have had people challenge me, why do I need to make so much money? To which I reply, when is enough, enough? One does what one does best. If that happens to generate wealth, then as long as it is possible to do the thing you do to create that profit, you must keep doing it, least of all because that is what you do and therefore there is no reason to stop doing it, but mostly because you don't know what life will throw at you in the future, so you have to keep going in case that downturn hits. Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:13:50 PM
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Altrav,
When you assert, "over time I have had people challenge me, why do I need to make so much money? "To which I reply, when is enough, enough. One does what one does best. "If that happens to generate wealth, then as long as it is possible to do the thing you do to create that profit, you must keep doing it, least of all because that is what you do and therefore there is no reason to stop doing it, but mostly because you don't know what life will throw at you in the future, so you have to keep going in case that downturn hits..... " isn't that pretty much the stereotype of Jewish people that their enemies come up with ? My step-grandfather was Hungarian Jewish, from the Voivodina (now forcibly part of Serbia), and as far as I can tell, lost all of his family during the War, except a brother fighting with Tito and a cousin from Rumania who survived badly disabled; he had brought his mother out in the thirties. So no other siblings, cousins, uncles, aunts, etc. All gone. He was interned as an enemy alien at Hay early in the War and lost a block of land in the process. He'd been an engineer, but died pretty much in poverty. Not your stereotype Jew. I recall that Jews in Sydney around 1950 seemed a small and dispirited group: his circle included the brother of Sam Goldwyn (supposedly). Italians are people. Jews are people. Australians are people. Nobody is innately, or by birth, any better or worse than anybody else. So no, I don't believe in any crackpot conspiracies involving any particular ethnic group AS an ethnic group. How ideologies or religion may influence people, is a very different matter, but even then, not all Muslims, say, are terrorists: none of the people killed in Christchurch seemed to have been terrorists. They were innocent of such vile crimes. But from memory, the vile criminal involved was an Australian. Such vile criminals probably come in all ethnicities, perhaps even Italian, with respect. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:41:07 PM
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So after the white "brothers" deal with the MUSLIMS and liberals when to turn on the JEW?
plantagenet, I'd imagine they'll go after any group that gives them an unreasonably hard time ! It's always been like that & always will be. As patience runs low things start to happen. Pretty logical really ! Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 August 2019 2:21:51 PM
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White Protestants are most probably the richest, most powerful majority, in the US and Australia. I'm 7/8ths, though not rich or powerful.
For example haven't all US Presidents (except JFK and Obama) been white Protestants? Certainly many White Supremacists (WSS) {not to be confused with the Waffen SS} loudly proclaim their hatred of Muslims - with a strategy to keep Israel's Jews fighting the Muslims. Then once Israel's Jews outlive their usefulness the WSS {not to be confused with the Waffen SS} have plans to isolate the Jews, and then... Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 August 2019 2:36:33 PM
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as bad a Trump might be, his love for the US certainly supersedes the lying liberal media, the democrats and the swamp which Alan seems to be part of. Anyone with half a brain can see that the race based politics of the lying leftist is far more harmful than many truthful tweets from Trump supported by the 'deplorables'. Just happens that Trump has done far more good for the American Africans than Obama ever did. Truth is something completely lost in the lying narrative Alan peddles.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 15 August 2019 6:21:34 PM
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loudly proclaim their hatred of Muslims
plantagenet, The Muslims hate each other when there's no-one else nearby to hate ! Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 August 2019 6:25:00 PM
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So indi
Does that make White Supremacists/Waffen SS right? Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 August 2019 7:11:17 PM
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Loudmouth,
don't know about stereotype Jews, but I do know about overly committed, overly focused elite Jews and their over committed loyalty to their absolute success and dominance in whatever they decide to control or dominate. They have sacrificed, (killed) other Jews to achieve a particular goal. They live by the mantra: "The end justifies the means". 9/11 was just one example, how many Jews died in those twin towers? Another typical example was the Napoleonic war. That Rothschild arsehole gave the poms a million quid and also gave Napoleon a million quid to finance the war. Hedging his bets, then his spies tell him the poms are winning. He, the lying scum, bastard puts out the word that England is losing. England sold up in a panic and he bought all there was to buy for a fraction of the true value. When the news arrived soon after that England had won the war, he sold everything back for many times more than he payed for them, netting him a small fortune and a giant leap forward in establishing some of the first banks like the Bank of England. And their vial rein just kept spreading and they now control the world money and transactions. These elites have not achieved great wealth and world dominance because they were astute businessmen, but because they were evil, conniving animals like ferrel dogs. And should be treated and regarded as such. To top it off they have set their sites on world domination, so before you think about defending them, think about what your going to do if your still alive when they put their plan into top gear and you end up under their control. Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 15 August 2019 9:54:51 PM
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plantagenet,
Seeing how stupid so many Whites are, the term supreme is out of place ! Only time will tell who will be the ruling race ! I'm certain it'll be those with the most discipline & patience ! Which will be the supreme one ? My guess is it'll be the one that overcomes Religion & harnesses common sense for the common good ! Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 August 2019 9:55:21 PM
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Hi indy
1. If I placed a bet I'd say the white Protestants will remain dominant for a very long time. Also noting even the Russian rulers are white with the largest religion being Eastern Orthodox Christian (which is not Catholic). 2. The main competition, with a 1.3 billion+ souls already, may be the Han Chinese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese With no dominant religion in the Western sense, though Confucian culture is strong, even in theoretically "athiest-communist" China. - theoretically communist because i THINK the real power is the card carrying Communist Party ARISTOCRACY dominating a Capitalist China. Cheers Pete Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:45:17 PM
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plantagenet,
I don't think China's Govt is all that interested in Australia, I think they got their eyes on PNG. No shortage of water there for starters & plenty of natural resources. On the other hand, if they did look seriously at Australia they'd first get the Bradfield scheme under way. And, probably build a bridge across Torres Strait. Posted by individual, Saturday, 17 August 2019 7:30:34 PM
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Hi indy
Like all great powers China has a worldwide econo-political strategy - especially in its own Asia-Pacific region. So, yes, Cambodia, PNG, Vanuatu, Fiji other, Pacific and Indian Ocean islands, are all part of China's debt trap (they owe China money) dynamic. As they can't afford to pay China back China often takes/develops key parts of their territory, typically ports, instead. China's increasing hold over PNG and other Pacific and Indian Ocean islands gives China a potential isolation/blockade of AUSTRALIA option in the medium-distant future. You will recall that Japan had just such a Pac Island/PNG strategy in WWII. And yes China has sufficient econo-political control, via Chinese companies, to exert influence over AUSTRALIA by: - buying up key Australian facilities (eg. Port Darwin), and - being Australia's No.1 import/export partner. Cheers Pete Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:43:27 PM
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As they can't afford to pay China back China often takes/develops key parts
plantagenet, They hit the Jackpot with Darwin harbour by the looks of it. I'd like to know what Australia owed China for to get that deal ? Posted by individual, Monday, 19 August 2019 8:25:14 PM
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Hi again Indy
It may cost "only" about $100 Billion for Australia to buy Port of Darwin back from China, I think :) Regards Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 19 August 2019 10:54:49 PM
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Once again the USA has suffered the tragic social and personal impact of mass shootings witnessed in El Paso and Dayton. There has followed political and media driven attempts to label the cause as “White supremacist” and “racism” generally as the factors behind these despicable acts. The Left has been quick to associate remarks by Donald Trump as the instigating factor. Certainly his inflammatory tweets or his political opponents/media interpretation of them do little to improve the political atmosphere that builds the social tension that contributes to the mindset of those inclined to violence.
However the political “Left” themselves may have contributed even more significantly to the social malaise that, in my view, underlies so many of the social problems of modern Western societies through their 'social engineering' of the basic social institution, viz 'the family'. In the USA no where is the community impact of this 'social engineering' more apparent than the horror of gun violence especially in the all too frequent mass shootings. Certainly the “Conservatives” have also contributed to the 'social engineering' more often by default in failing to adequately defend 'family values' that both sides of politics basically once supported. In respect of the gun violence the “conservatives” have been too lax or too deferential to the National Rifle Association, to even limit access to automatic weapons which have greatly magnified the extent of the mass killings. At least in Australia the conservative Howard Government brought in and enforced strict gun laws following the Port Arthur massacre. Posted by Bagsy41, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 6:54:35 PM
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Part 2. But back to my contention that the 'social engineering' of the 'family' underpins so many of today's social problems, and in respect to this article the disastrous and destructive growth in mass shootings in the USA.
In this regard, a US study of mass shootings carried out by Jillian Peterson and James Densley, Aug. 4, 2019 (1) from 1966 to today discloses that in the case of nearly all individuals involved 'childhood trauma' was part of the backdrop For two years, they studied the life histories of mass shooters in the United States for a project funded by the National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the U.S. Department of Justice. They built a database dating back to 1966 of every mass shooter who shot and killed four or more people in a public place, and every shooting incident at schools, workplaces, and places of worship since 1999. They interviewed incarcerated perpetrators and their families, shooting survivors and first responders. They examined media and social media, manifestos, suicide notes, trial transcripts and medical records. They observed that the vast majority of mass shooters experienced early childhood trauma and exposure to violence at a young age. The nature of their exposure included parental suicide, physical or sexual abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and/or severe bullying. The trauma was often a precursor to mental health concerns, including depression, anxiety, thought disorders or suicidality. All pointing to family breakdown and as the statistics show alarming rates in the increase of fatherless families since the 1960s. Posted by Bagsy41, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 7:08:56 PM
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