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Lunar narratives: landing on the moon, politics and the Cold War : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 22/7/2019

Combating the Soviet Union, and communism more broadly, was simply one aspect of an aggrandised fist fight, to be fought on the ground, the seas, and in space.

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Bored stiff with the current nonsense on the moon landing. It is less interesting now than it was when it happened, and that's saying something. Let's concentrate on problems on Earth.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 July 2019 9:21:46 AM
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When Binoy Kampmark of his family decided to leave whatever sheethole country they inhabited and decided to live in another country, they did not decide to live with the South Americans, or the wonderful Muslims, or the Indians, the Chinese, or the Pacific Islanders. No, Binoy or his family decided to live in the west, specifically Australia. Binoy went to uni and did well, where he discovered, (probably much to his astonishment) that despising western culture is some sort of fashion statement among western undergraduates.

Binoy went on to get himself a well paying and prestigious job with the government funded for human rights mob, who's whole reason for existence is to find ways to aid minority groups who hate the west but who want to live with us. One thing is certain, Binoy learned it was very profitable and socially advancing to slag off at the culture he or his family clamored to be a part of.

And here he is again. The Lunar Landings are the crowning achievement of the country which is the leader of the free world. They are an unwelcome reminder to every totalitarian state that even 50 years after the moon landings, they can not match the USA in science and technology. So Binoy feels the need to belittle this great achievement. This should get him invited to a few more A list parties where rich and well connected celebrities sneer at Trump and the working class Deplorables while knocking back their carafes of Chardonnay, posing for he society photographers, and digging into the caviar.

The lead that the USSR had over the USA came about because the USSR could not match the strategic reach of the USA and they invested in ballistic missiles instead of bombers and submarine launched ballistic missiles. Von Braun sat on the bench for years ignored by the US armed forces and he quipped that he should have defected to the Russians. It was only Sputnik that got the USA thinking about the prestigious ramifications of space explorations, and as was expected, they soon completely eclipsed the USSR.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 22 July 2019 9:54:48 AM
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In this world there are doers, & those who look on from the sidelines, & snipe at the doers. Those who snipe the loudest & longest are the ones who wish they could be like the doers, but can't raise the energy, ability or intestinal fortitude to actually do something.

They can come up with dozens of reasons not to do anything, from their comfortable safe seat on the sidelines of life. While they sit, unable to raise the courage to go & do, they will denigrate the doers, trying to make themselves less ashamed for their lack of imitative or courage.

With enough putting down the doers they can almost, but never quite eliminate their feeling of inferiority. Of course they have a thousand reasons for doing nothing, but deep inside they know why they only snipe.

Should we feel sorry for them, no way, but we must never admire them. They are the nothings of this world.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 22 July 2019 11:10:19 AM
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Well, it was fifty years ago and the spinoffs have contributed to the quality of life and business profits far more than the cost, in total, of all our, to date, space exploration.

I predict inside twenty years, we will have a warp drive and interstellar travel. And with it the easing of population pressure here on mother earth. In fact, see a mass migration to the farthermost reaches of our galaxy and the habitation of completely uninhabited planets in their millions. Inside this century

Always providing we can get the dolts and the hugely misinformed fearmongers to stop trying to arrest technical/industrial development and CARBON FREE nuclear energy.

Can't see solar-powered space flight, nor wind turbines driving a warp engine. Neither of those options will ever create, affordable bismuth 213, a miracle cancer cure that has been SUCCESSFULLY trialled MANY TIMES around the world and by conventional western medicine.

The lunar landing was the forerunner of a possible human colony on the moon. And so those that would involve the world in a planet-destroying nuclear holocaust, would have a bolt hole to escape to?

On a lighter note, the Chinese have put a rocket on the dark side of the moon and set it up as a restaurant. They say the food is outta this world and to die for. But, the joint has absolutely no atmosphere.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 22 July 2019 12:47:34 PM
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Lego. Riding the unbridled horse of racism into the West.

Binoy Kampmark being Indian, how do you fit all that into your tight narrative?

He could hardly be accused of running away from India to join the West do you think?

I feel sure he would know more about the West from first hand experience, than you would believe, obviously!

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 22 July 2019 1:26:17 PM
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And besides all that, I like this author. He obviously has a brain and knows how to use it.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 22 July 2019 1:32:35 PM
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To Diver Dan.

Thank you, I always wondered where Binoy hailed from. India is not a western country, it is a south east Asian country which has embraced much of western technology and western rational thinking, and not surprisingly, has done alright out of it. But when Binoy left India he did not head for Africa, South America, China, or The middle east. Like so many third worlders, he headed for the lands populated by the white guys. He must be a racist.

If pointing that out Binoy dodged the dysfunctional states run by ethnic minorities and headed for states run by white people is racism, then it is also the truth. If it is racist to tell the truth, then what exactly is wrong with racism?

I used to be an anti racist until I was smart enough to figure out that all of these virtue signallers going on and on about racism ere very racist towards white people. How come you never figured it out? Everybody is racist. Even the Israelis are racist. Here in Australia the most ardent anti racists we have are the inner city elites, who according to newspaper reports, they live in the whitest suburbs and they send their kids to the whitest private schools.

Getting back on topic. In the same way that Trump made himself popular by telling those four "minority" women who collectively insulted the USA, that if they don't like America, they are free to leave. I would say exactly the same to Binoy. I don't appreciate non white people immigrating into my white country and then sneering at my country, my people, or my culture.

Binoy just took a shot at the USA, which just happens to be a western country like Australia, and Australia's closest ally. If he attacks the USA, I will return the compliment.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 22 July 2019 3:03:40 PM
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Dear Lego.

Well done! You made me laugh. Not many people can do that.

I like this author, and I don't care much where he comes from.
I don't agree with everything that he says, but he always makes what he says sound interesting.

Well India had a long innings with the British Commonwealth. That's the point I was making.
So I figure he is well acquainted with Western expectations.

I've just skimmed through this article. I assume it's anti-investment in space exploration.
After all, space exploration is arguably all about military domination in the end.
Balance of power.
I'm happy to seethe US win that game, but I get a bit tired of the priority it becomes to certain of the privileged who don't camp in cars as a substitute for a roof over their heads et al.

When US citizens cross the border into Mexico to stock up on affordable insulin, that means Mexicans are actually better off than many US citizens. Or treated better in the least.
That's a personal opinion.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 22 July 2019 7:10:28 PM
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Another excellent essay

rubbing OLO Tosseratti the wrong way

by Binoy Kampmark

OLO's Kommie* gallah-k.

* Kommie being the vast majority who are sanely Left of the OLO Right.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 1:07:48 AM
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Binoy should write about the population explosion in his country of birth ! Can't disagree with his moon landing article though !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 25 July 2019 4:30:26 AM
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'Well India had a long innings with the British Commonwealth'
...and when you paraphrase that statement within the boundaries of historical reality it reads ' India got screwed good and proper by the British for quite some time'
Only a Jingo would have you believe otherwise
Posted by Special Delivery, Friday, 26 July 2019 8:56:13 AM
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