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Good Lord, where did Labor go? : Comments

By Kurt Mahlburg, published 31/5/2019

It's impossible to relive the past, but a better future can be forged. Australia is best served by two major parties whose 'inclusion' doesn't feel like exclusion for a vast swathe of voters.

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Labor have a problem where they're seen as a party stuck in the 20th century, whereas the liberal party is viewed as fresh, modern, and open to the immense opportunities that God has granted this amazing country.
Posted by progressive pat, Friday, 31 May 2019 9:09:59 AM
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Whilst I agree with you Kurt, you have clearly and articulately isolated just one of the Labor policy and ‘cultural’ issues. I believe an equally accurate line of argument could be made from another set of errors. To name just one other; charging electric cars in an hour or so, 50% of vehicles in Aus being electric in a couple of years. 40/50% of electric generation being met in a couple of years and telling a person who asked about ‘costing’ that it was a mad question.
I would be interested in your opinion on this (climate change) policy, amongst others, in this forum in the near future?
Posted by Prompete, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:22:20 AM
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Labor lost the plot when it tried to be for coal and against coal. without a narrative for a post-coal world and on us far sooner than they or their puppet string pullers are ready for!

They are intellectually unable to accept our future is undisputably a nuclear future. They've buried their heads in some warm and comfortable place and focused almost exclusively on winning elections or the very next term and are already girding the lions and contemplating what strategy will best serve that end?

Would they could find another Ben Chifley and some real future vision. Our best possible future resides in change, just not the piss-weak change they are ALLOWED to envisage? But rather one where government funded and facilitated cooperative capitalism is the order of the day and our preferred economic template.

And prosper that with CLEAN, SAFE, AFFORDABLE NUCLEAR POWER

Not just any nuclear power or conventional nuclear power, but rater MSR thorium, that can also be tasked with the burning of the world's stockpile of nuclear waste, given in MSR technology, this material is just unspent fuel and enough already to alone power the world for at least a thousand years, with CLEAN, SAFE, AFFORDABLE, DISPATCHABLE. RELIABLE, carbon-free energy!

Given we do this now, as first, as a repository that stores this material, then as soon as we have MSR up and running, use it as free fuel others will pay us annual billions to thoughtfully dispose of.

And as the funding source to build and deploy MSR

As we do, change the face and prospects of Australia massively and for the vastly better! And for every one of us, not just the usual select few and without cramming more and more folks into already overcrowded gridlocked cities!

Trouble for blinkered thinkers! Can't see what you WON'T look at!

Bill's legacy is and will, be NIS. Thank you, Bill!

ELECTRIC CARS CAN BE CHARGED TO 80% IN JUST 23 MINUTES! OR CONTINUALLY ON THE GO ON A GRAPHENE HIGHWAY?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 31 May 2019 11:05:53 AM
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What about all the polls and surveys that say Christianity is on the nose with with so many Australians now? I think that many commentators are projecting their own feelings and beliefs onto a population that is just not interested. Voters were not put off Labor because of 'faith'. Since when did socialists care about religion anyway? Lack of interest in faith has never kept Labor out of government in the past.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:20:02 AM
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Don't forget Russian Collusion through sky after dark. Ha ha!
Posted by runner, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:52:03 AM
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with all Labour's virtue signalling on its morality about caring for the future blah blah we see Penny Wong complete nastiness and arrogance in refusing to shake anyone's hand after a debate. Would of kept the abc busy for 3 weeks had it been Dutton or Abbott. How could anyone not of enjoyed seeing her sour face on election night after such a childish tantrum.
Posted by runner, Friday, 31 May 2019 3:06:35 PM
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I wouldn't vote ALP even in a one Party State.. but.. this statement is totally wrong...... "Five minutes ago, secularism meant freedom of religion, not freedom from religion." The writer appears to have little if any idea of the meaning "secular " A shame really , because some of the Article was interesting..
Posted by Aspley, Saturday, 1 June 2019 5:32:40 PM
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Until the ALP goes all the way back to its original Labor doctrine, then worrying about them is a total waste of time. Labor has been hijacked by academic elitists & their bandwagon is dishing out such handsome perks that Labor will never be Labor again.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 June 2019 7:47:07 AM
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Next time Labor should just ape Morrison and question funding and promises, pointing to the broken ones, all of them for the term of the Turnbull/Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison government. Their appalling social justice record, the deplorable suicide rate and exclusions. Plus the ever-growing gap between the haves and have nots as a consequence of this "CHRISTIAN" government's actions as they seek to give action to THEIR master's teachings!?

To the point where some senior cabinet ministers are trying to equate religious freedom and free speech with completely disgraced homophobia, discrimination and persecution of folk for the circumstance of their birth and consequential, God-given difference!

Were the master to walk among us today, many of these "CHRISTIANS" WITH HIS GENTLE, KIND, FORGIVING WAYS AND PREDILECTION FOR EXCLUSIVE MALE COMPANY!

Many of the openly "CHRISTIAN" ministers of the crown would judge him to be homosexual and deny him access to many positions?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 2 June 2019 12:17:01 PM
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Not so, Alan B. I am homophobic to the extent that I do not believe in homosexual "marriage". But that does not mean that I want to throw homosexuals off buildings like our Muslim brothers. And I am not a Christian at all. I am an atheist. Nobody can convince me that a male sticking his penis up another male's anus is a natural thing to do. An anus is not a vagina. An anus is a one way valve. it is not meant to be penetrated from the other direction. Failure to understand that just gives proctologists a lot of patients.

And don't throw that "It is all love" crap at me. Using that excuse, there is nothing wrong today for people using contraceptives, for fathers to "love" their daughters, or for mothers to "love" their sons.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:28:57 AM
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Dear Kurt,
I liked your article very much. However, from your list of Christian leaders of the ALP, you omitted the staunchest Catholic of them all- Arthur Augustus Calwell. He was awarded the Grand Silver Star as Knight Commander of the Order of St. Gregory the Great by Pope Paul VI in 1967. This was in spite of strong animosity from some Catholic bishops and members of the ALP, due to the sectarianism that existed following the split in the ALP in 1955. From Calwell's book,"Be Just and Fear Not", I quote: "Bishop Arthur Fox of Victoria said on the Monday after the 1966 elections: 'I am glad the (Holt) Government won. The security of the nation is more important than a mess of pottage".

And as Arthur Calwell has been the only Australian politician shot (on 21 June 1966), he does hold a special identity in the political life of this country.
Posted by Cyclone, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:29:58 AM
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