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Israel Folau: indoctrination and the Tongan Fakaleiti : Comments

By Max Wallace, published 9/5/2019

They conform to the trappings and symbols of religious assimilation by wearing the 'whites' every Sunday as an act of racial contrition to a White Preacher Man's own contrived rules.

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They are all out there, and quite a few of them are on this subject as well. Fortunately we know who they are and they are more to be pitied than railed against.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 9 May 2019 4:21:14 PM
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Obviously Max Wallis, the author of this little piece of hateful bigotry against Christians, would not wish the real truth to escape. But it has. Here is a list of alternatives to the Christian way, he proposes by default:

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In a speech on December 10, 2013, to a pro-family rally in Jamaica, Brian Camenker of MassResistance outlined the step-by-step approach of the homosexual agenda:[1]
1; Legalize homosexuality
2; Hold gay pride parades
3; Accept child sex trafficking
4; Demand non-discrimination laws
5; Insist on homosexuals' adoption of children
6; Push the homosexual agenda in schools[2]
7; Legalize various alternate forms of partnership and call them "marriage" (i.e. man and man, woman and woman, man and three women, woman and box turtle, man and sex toy)
8; Demand public funding to deal with increased homosexual-related social problems
9; Promote the transgender agenda
10; Demand to be treated "equally"
11; Impose a large-scale loss of free speech
12; Ban counselling for kids confused by homosexual issues
13; Ban scientifically and religiously proven methods of homosexual conversion, such as shock therapy
14; Attack churches
15; Encourage abortion

Christians are right to protest against it, and Folau is justified to add homosexuality into the mix of moral depravity, outlined in his quote from Christian scriptures.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 9 May 2019 8:34:56 PM
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These indoctrinated folk are never ever going to stop! Therefore all those that support their view from elected positions of power need to be removed!

And with them gone, cut all taxpayer funding from these same organisations. Least we forget the lives this BLIND bigotry and gay bashing persecution has taken, just as surely if it were their hands that knotted the rope etc!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 9 May 2019 10:01:59 PM
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Dear Max (the author),

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Many thanks for that interesting historical and cultural background information on Israel Folau.

It certainly enlightens the debate and helps us put things in perspective.

Like everything else, religion is a mixed bag. It does a lot of good but, unfortunately, it also does a lot of harm – right and wrong – reflecting the ancient Chinese philosophical concept of dualism of the yin and the yang.

As long as the two cancel each other out and reach a point of equilibrium, I guess that’s about the best we can do.

No one can be expected to achieve the impossible.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 10 May 2019 1:06:59 AM
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Dear Runner,

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The OED defines secularism as :

« the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions »
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However, an article on the Federal Parliament website, adds :

« Secularism may refer to a worldview which stands in opposition to a religious or spiritual orientation.

In political theory, it refers to the principle of separating the institutions of politics from the institutions of religion. The latter sense is particularly relevant to a discussion of how the law deals with religious tradition. Secularism in this sense has been conventionally interpreted as meaning that mechanisms of the state must stand aloof from religious debates or support for particular religious traditions. For example, the state would not levy church taxes, give financial support to religious specialists, or erect religious qualifications for access to such areas as university entry or public office. The Australian expression of this convention is found in Section 116 of the Constitution ».

Section 116 of the Constitution provides that:

« the Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth ».
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Michael Hogan, Honorary Associate Professor, Department of Government and International Relations, University of Sydney, observes :

« Religious freedom has value in the Commonwealth Constitution only in so far as the practice of such freedom does not offend against the accustomed community rights of other Australians. That this is the exact opposite of what could be expected from a provision guaranteeing religious freedom against the 'tyranny of the majority' has not concerned the High Court ».

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp9900/2000RP11#one

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 10 May 2019 1:11:41 AM
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The illusion:

Gay - and have another drink - in the Chairman's Lounge.

Gay pride goes before the fall: Proverbs 16:18

The reality:

Gay - and perpetual indulgence - at the Mardi Gras.
Gay - and unspeakable depravities - on the dark web.
Gay - and STDs - at the specialist's surgery.
Gay - and anal cancer or Aids - in the hospice.

God will not be mocked: Galatians 6:7
Posted by elizabeth4, Friday, 10 May 2019 8:18:46 AM
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