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Izzy Folau repeats an obligato in the OLO score : Comments

By Graham Young, published 15/4/2019

My hope is that what we are experiencing is the teething pangs of what is still a very new technology, and that with more instances like this, common-sense and tolerance will reassert themselves

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Foxy says "This is not a religious discussion this is a
discussion around the employee - employer relationship
and the values and contractual arrangements within that
agreement. That's the basis on which we've served him a
breach notice."
My point is does any employer have a right to insist on values which have nothing to do with the values of the game of rugby which I assume centre on a player being willing to follow his coach's directions in training and play and to meet certain media photo and interview commitments. To go beyond that into having players give up their freedom of thought and speech in their private lives is well outside the rights of any employer.
We are both free to express ourselves on this forum Mr Folau had the right to quote from the Bible on his personal twitter account.
Posted by Truth Seeker, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 12:47:18 PM
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This is not what Foxy says. It's what Rugby Australia
says - and Foxy is simply quoting them.

He violated their own codes of behaviour and the
contract which he signed and agreed to abide by.

Apparently Rugby Australia decided that under their
own codes his behaviour was not acceptable.
Rugby Australia is a commercial entity - and as Folau
is popular and influential to younger fans - they
found that his behaviour went against their code of
inclusion.

Anyone having a problem with that should take it up
with Rugby Australia - not Foxy.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 4:12:10 PM
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Foxy you are a genius!Apologies by the way for wrongly attributing the quote to you. However your own words got right to the heart of what this really is all about.
Apparently Rugby Australia decided that under their
own codes his behaviour was not acceptable.
Rugby Australia is a commercial entity - and as Folau
is popular and influential to younger fans - they
found that his behaviour went against their code of
inclusion.
Rugby Australia have no problems with their young fans being exposed to the messages of thise pushing the same sex lifestyle to the extent that they backed the fight for same sex marriage but draw the line at their young fans becoming aware of a different way of thinking!
Posted by Truth Seeker, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 4:27:59 PM
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TS,

It will be interesting to see whether Folau
is able to achieve anything legally regarding
the actions of Rugby Australia.
We shall have to wait and see what the courts
decide.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 6:18:46 PM
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No Foxy. The real issue is, whether any commercial entity can demand that it's employees not exercise any one of their civil rights.

Football clubs have "codes of conduct", do they? Let's see. I remember a time when cruise ships banned any Sydney football club from booking club cruises for their players because of the disgusting behaviour of football players. Football players routinely test positive for banned substances, have been involved in drug trafficking, get involved in nightclub brawls, have been thrown out of motels for smearing human faeces on motel walls, one famous one was arrested for indecent exposure, and others have been involved in rapes and sexual assaults, some on underage girls.

In most of these cases the clubs did almost nothing, other than tell the players what naughty boys they were.

But Israel Folau did not break any laws or engage in disgusting behaviour. He did nothing more than tell people he considered to be sinners to stop sinning, and he gets sacked.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 6:35:05 PM
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LEGO,

The Rugby Australia Chief says that folau ignored
her warnings. He broke the contractual
arrangements he had agreed and signed to - hence
he was served with a breach notice.

Folau is apparently questioning the legalities
involved. The Courts will decide if he has a
legal case.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 7:13:46 PM
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