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Is Labor serious about electric vehicles? : Comments

By Alan Davies, published 9/4/2019

Labor's policy on electrical vehicles (EVs) is probably good politics but it offers little substance in support of its optimistic targets.

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Cont. Every domicile, apartment building school, hospital or office building etc. Must be fitted or retrofitted with locally invented two tank system, closed cycle, smell free, bio-digesters that turn all organic waste and food waste into deployable stored in large bladders, methane.

Which will, as a first planned consequence, massively turbocharge our steel metals smelting and metal fabrication industry!

After simple scrubbing, the generated biogas (methane) is sent on demand to also locally invented ceramic fuel cells, which produce on-demand electricity, endless free hot water, mostly pristine water vapour as the exhaust product.

Waste products from the digesters include thoroughly sanitised, nutrient-loaded reusable water (millions and millions of annual litres) and also thoroughly sanitised, carbon-rich soil improver! (millions and millions of annual tons! Which will improve soil moisture retention, friability and permeability!

The surplus metered and paid for electricity (50+%) can be sent to the graphene highway via suburban graphene roads! And without significant transmission loss!

And durable and maintenance free for centuries as the first result of intelligence, pragmatism and fiscal literacy! The reusable water can be sent to outlying farmland and deployed under biodegradable plastic film, to optimise subsoil moisture and force weed species to germinate and met their doom under the plastic.

Which would in due course, be drilled directly into for planting commercially desirable crops? And not when the vagaries of the weather decide! But when market conditions determine! And traditional high water using crops!

Leaving current water flows currently diverted for such crops to flow unimpeded to the Coorong!

How do households pay for this amenity? Via government loans and off budget!

And simple, their last ten years electricity bill could be averaged and that amount collected less the wholesale of their personal power contribution to the grid. As a quarterly fee. Until their amenity is fully paid for say thirty years down the track.

All new buildings to be compulsory fitted and paid for/financed, as part and parcel of future construction costs?

One assumes peak power loading would be offset by rooftop solar and current planned and implemented pumped hydro etc?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 11:29:43 AM
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This plan if ever implemented would make every household a power generator and able to use energy generated on the premises 24/7 for heaters, air conditioners, whatever. And given all of it, solid-state technology, very little maintenance and no summer storm blackouts nor transmission tower brought down by increasingly severe high winds.

Moreover, the whole nation would be put to work! Fitting and retrofitting the system. Given all the costs are upfront and financed by the government and off budget. Able to become more and more affordable with time and managed inflation.

If we make the electric vehicles and batteries here? And we can! We may well need some other sources of industrial power.

The least costly would arguably be MSR thorium.

As for thermal coal? Well, it could/should be cooked and then sent to banks of methane-consuming ceramic fuel cells at the industry premises via a (no other choice) national gas grid.

Perhaps when we have a more carbon-constrained economy and carbon tariffs?

Therefore, no other possible choice and the costs have trebled, quadrupled/massively magnified! Your choice, financial genius!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 11:55:03 AM
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Alan B.,
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Is it an analogy of how impractical EVs would be? Or do you actually think that's what we should do?
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 1:42:30 PM
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Labour just can't help themselves. Wedded to the Greens they continue to show themselves as economic vandals as well as hypocrites. Tanya says she needs a big car to drive her family around. They have no idea whatsoever its like to live in the Regions who are watching these goons destroy the economy along with Greens/Vegans. No wonder people are attracted to Fraser Anning. He seems a lot more sensible and rational than Shorten and his mob.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 2:05:27 PM
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EV's should be charged and ready for purpose, like all other rechargeable appliances in a house. Draining their battery other than in driving shortens the life of their intended purpose.

Baseload electricity is more important to Shorten's fantasy than he seems capable of understanding. Brain-farting is a poor substitute for planning.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 2:29:55 PM
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As politics is the art of compromise AND offending the lowest number of voters

Labor's policy will probably pan out as pro-HYBRID cars.

This is noting many Toyota Camrys and Corollas are already HYBRID with NO (that is NO) RELIANCE ON THE ELECTRICITY GRID.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 6:32:48 PM
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