Not Now Soon writes: " There is however too much evidance in the world that God exists for faith to be something without evidance.

It's amazing how theism afflicts the cerebral processes of the godly. This time, it's spelling. EVIDENCE is ignored when faith steps upon stage, for faith is the theist's resort when he or she can find no worthy reason and most often is held tightly in spite of worthy evidence.

The theist by definition has faith because evidence for a deity is a fraudulent perversion of truth. The martyrdom suffered by the theist is relished to compensate for the reputation earned as a fool. He actually thinks it is a good deal.

Pogi,

<<EVIDENCE is ignored when faith steps upon stage, for faith is the theist's resort when he or she can find no worthy reason and most often is held tightly in spite of worthy evidence>>

That's your presupposition. It is not based on the evidence for my faith. <<Evidence is ignored when faith...>> is a straw man. That may be the case for some. It is not for me. My faith is founded on the facts of God's existence, Jesus' life, death, burial and resurrection - all objective facts.

Mine is not a blind leap of faith but faith founded on facts. Yes, facts!

<<The theist by definition has faith because evidence for a deity is a fraudulent perversion of truth.>>

Again, that's nothing more than your presupposition pushed onto theists and it seems to be based on your misunderstanding of the evidence God has provided in creation for you to believe in Him.

One second after your last breath, you'll stand before God, 'without excuse', for denying him. Take a read of Romans 1:18-23 at:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom+1%3A18-23&version=NIRV

That's just what we need... Another person who confuses having rational or irrational ideas with whether or not the ideas should pass a spelling test, or take part in a spelling bee.

To Pogi.

I get that spelling errors might be a pet peeve for you, because I see it annoying other people to great length. It's a common enough annoyance, but in the large scale of the world, spelling, grammar, or even using a language in a proper and formal way has very little importance outside of the shallow element of presenting what you're saying. To make this point clear. Language changes. Not just spelling, but actual words their usage, and the meaning behind them. Case in point is the difference compared in English when spoken by an American, an Australian, and a Britain. Each country speaks English (as opposed to a different language) but the language is used differently. Even to the degree of some words being spelled slightly different.

Mistakes happen with spelling and with speaking a language, but if the point and the content are understood, then regardless of anything else that's what actually counts. Pet peeve or not, spelling doesn't matter outside of presenting what your saying well. If you can understand what's being said, then that's the important part.

Now back to your regularly scheduled debate. Try to continue without blundering on over nothing important. In logical arguments, blundering over something unrelated or unimportant is usually called a red herring. Just an FYI for where spelling falls in any debate outside of an English course.

....Now back to your regularly scheduled debate....

Pogi you said.

<<EVIDENCE is ignored when faith steps upon stage, for faith is the theist's resort when he or she can find no worthy reason and most often is held tightly in spite of worthy evidence. >>

Nope. Wrrong.

<<The theist by definition has faith because evidence for a deity is a fraudulent perversion of truth. The martyrdom suffered by the theist is relished to compensate for the reputation earned as a fool. He actually thinks it is a good deal.>>

Nope. All kinds of nope-ness. Possibly even to the point of "hell no" if one was inclined to outbursts.

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Would you like to try again, or just continue on in arguing your assumptions with no basis on reality. So that you can see it better, the evidence of God can be found by 1) The testimonies in people's lives of how God (or someone up there) acted and intervened in their lives. 2) Through study in detail of how the world is. Anatomy, biology, ecosystems, even physics and applying it to how Earth is here and not only had life on it, but still has life abundant and diverse on it without falling apart. Each of these when studied to an in depth amount should come to an awe inspiring conclusion. We are no accident, or chance occurrence. 3) lastly evidence of God can be found by the common measure of communicating with Him. Prayer is it's own evidence if God answers back, replies, or even just resolves what was prayed about.

When evidence is collected enough to come to the correct conclusion that God exists the only other issue then stems down to, what's from God and what isn't. Including what religion(s) are from God and which ones aren't. From there faith is not an obscure thing without reason, but is an active part of the study, reasoning, and search for finding God. This is part of many people's lives in their journey in their faith. The idea that faith is without reason is a lie repeated by those who don't know any better and are too blind to open their eyes to see how it's wrong. Don't be like that Pogi.