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Coral can take the heat, unlike experts crying wolf : Comments

By Peter Ridd, published 31/12/2018

This is why corals are one of the least likely species to be affected by climate change, irrespective of whether you believe the climate is changing by natural fluctuations or because of human influence.

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G'day Peter,
You are doing great work publicising the fairdinkum science about coral bleaching, but your analogies about high-intensity bushfires are counter-productive. They support the junk-science of anti-burners, that is much more destructive than the coral alarmists cos it not only costs more money, but it costs human lives as well.
You wrote "But the data keeps coming in and, yes, sometimes a great deal of coral dies in a spectacular manner, with accompanying media fanfare. It is like a bushfire on land — it looks terrible at first, but it quietly and rapidly grows back, ready for the scientists to peddle their story all over again."
Coral bleaching is a natural phenomenon. Extensive high intensity fires or megafires are not. They are a result of vegetation change and accumulation of three-dimensionally continuous fuels.
To beat all the academics with their snouts in the climate crazy trough, we've gotta get all the facts right.
Posted by Little, Monday, 31 December 2018 3:04:52 PM
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"But the truth will out eventually".

The truth is already available. It got this brave man the sack.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 31 December 2018 3:39:26 PM
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I recently dived on the Ribbon Reefs on the outer GBR & one of those much-hyped Bommies had less marine life than a main street gutter.
Seeing the changes of the GBR from over 40 years of diving, my conclusion is that coral is bleaching due to pollution not temperature.
Chemicals from WW2 shipwrecks swirling with ocean currents all over the Pacific, chemicals going down the rivers from mining, sunscreen lotion washing off 5000+ tourists/day, commercial shipping oil loss & last but not least in the least is raw run-off from coastal towns.
On a more positive note I noticed quite a lot of small patches of new coral growth. Since trawling has been greatly reduced, the water is getting clearer again too.
Reduce pollution & exploitation (recreational fishing) within the GBR & all will be well again. The healthof the GBR is far more important than some whackos getting satisfaction from throwing half-torn fish back in "Sport Fishing". Outlaw barbed hooks for a start & stop selling them immediately.
Posted by individual, Monday, 31 December 2018 8:01:12 PM
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certainly refreshing to read of someone who is in the know and rejects the pseudo science of the warmist religion. I am not so confident the truth will win out. When 'scientist' can't call a baby with a penis a male one wonders how putried the swamp has become. Pity such a great asset as the Barrier Reef has become politized by the likes of the getup clowns and other Green degenerates.
Posted by runner, Monday, 31 December 2018 9:52:48 PM
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Bet Morrison will not now take back the $448 million dollars that the idiot Turnbull gave away.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 31 December 2018 10:44:16 PM
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Cooked coral.
One notes this article is composed of selectively select facts, that would seem to support a climate change denialist's worldview? And from the pen of a former Cook University Academic, Peter Ridd, now seemingly at war with former colleagues?

The article also suspect as mere confirmation bias as it was apparently first published in an extremely right-wing ultra-conservative Journal? Where birds of a feather flock together and parrot one another's opinions?

This comment edited and corrected by Grammarly.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 1 January 2019 11:07:47 AM
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"But the truth will out eventually".

We're talking about climate science here. What's the truth got to do with it?

"This comment edited and corrected by Grammarly."

That anyone with 4 degrees would need Grammarly is an indictment on our education system...or something.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 11:16:35 AM
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Well this is not selective facts.

I dived in Rabaul harbour where 120 Jap ships were sunk, many with cargos of all the nasty things you can imagine. Not only were the corals thriving, in much hotter water than anywhere on the Great Barrier Reef, but were competing strongly for a foot hold on all those ships.

I also dived along the shores of Iron Bottom Sound, again with wrecks on the bottom & the shore line, & the coral is fantastic.

I saw the increase of marine seaweed on the inshore reefs between 1950 as a kid, & the 70s, when we were paying cane farmers & others to use fertilisers far too liberally. I then saw a return of healthy coral to many areas where seaweed had taken over, as farmers reduced this usage.

Over years of carting 700+ tourists a week out to the same spot on Hardy Reef, & many overnight & longer fishing/exploring parties to the reefs out from there, I saw very little change over the years. The change I did see was cyclone damage & repair over many years.

Not once did I ever see another boat out round Net, Knuckle or Kennedy reefs, my favourite spots, in all my time out there.

Overuse is a total fallacy, pushed by the Townsville grant chases.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 12:25:26 PM
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Hasbeen,
Yeah, 30 or more years ago all was fine. The northern GBR didn't have to cope with the outflow from that massive Goldmine in PNG.
I spent a week on the Ribbons three weeks ago & I was really taken aback at the poor marine life.
Tourist numbers 40 years ago were a fith of what they became in the 90's. All up, the only activity that has thankfully decreased is trawling but damage was done already.
Another thing that doesn't help is international ships pumping ballast water into the waters of the GBR. God only knows what that introduces here.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 1:09:39 PM
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Coral be bleached, Turn Turn.

There is a reason. Turn Turn Turn.

And a time for every bleached col, under Heaven.

Sing it Byrds http://youtu.be/W4ga_M5Zdn4
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 9:05:14 PM
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Nice to see the support for Peter Rudd in his efforts to overwhelm the climate fraud promoters with honesty.
Allan B typifies the dishonest boneheads with his puerile, baseless comment “ it was apparently first published in an extremely right-wing ultra-conservative Journal? Where birds of a feather flock together and parrot one another's opinions?” A complete lack of science from Allan, and nothing to verify his assertion.
He fails to understand that there are no denialists, since the fraud promoters have no science to deny. There is no science to show any measurable human human effect on climate. You really show your lack of education, Alan
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:02:23 AM
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Technically, there's a difference between Climate change & pollurtion but pollution very likely contributes to any warming in our atmosphere. Climate change is a natural occurrence & just because it doesn't suit us we come to all sorts of crazy conclusions. One of the outcomes of such conclusions is of course the opportunistic nature of people is coming into play and, so far as they're concerned, as long as money can be made from such hype all is good.
I doubt if the GW warriors would be inclined to do their bit in slowing their contribution to the warming. As a matter of fact it's them who do most of the emission travelling. The worst offenders are the Military. The recent rise in atmospheric temperature was very likely due to the oil fires, particularly those in the mad East.
Ask these "deeply concerned" people to stop using pollutants & see what answer you get from them.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 3 January 2019 7:45:26 AM
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seems like not many people here care about the reef, judging by the responses.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 5 January 2019 8:06:24 AM
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