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‘Political Correctness’ mostly beaten-up, but is there a grain of truth? : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 6/12/2018

On the other hand parts of the self-identifying left these days have in many instances distanced themselves from class politics instead embracing identity politics and liberalism.

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People generally do not have the wherewithall or the experience, knowledge, maturity and so on and so forth, I think you get my drift, people are not capable of making fully informed decisions, about, ANYTHING.
And we need look no further than our own 'up em'selves' govt.
Govt's are not in the business of 'grooming' people.
They have no place in controlling people's thinking and attitudes.
If it does not involve physical harm, it's nobody's business.
The word, hypocrite, comes to mind if someone says you must have limitations on what you say and if it may harm someone?
I don't care if what I say 'harms' someone, if they feel harm, they have only themselves to blame for being such wimps, if I said it, it must be true, or I would not say it.
If I am wrong, show me where I have erred and I will change my rhetoric accordingly.
I will NOT, nor do I expect an opponent to hold back from 'speaking the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God', because that IS the 'real' law, and not this crap the 'non-people' keep rabbiting on about.
It is a pathetic agenda, pushed by pathetic and lesser people who refuse to engage in the real world for reasons known only to them, but in doing so expect the rest of the viable and progressive people to succumb to their unrealistic, weaker and regressive views so as to accommodate them, at our expense.
It's a shame that we don't have people with broader views on life, instead of this narrow, convenient, comfortable one that is simply not true or realistic, and is infecting so many younger people.
I'll bet the loony left will NEVER admit to being the cause of all these self harm and suicides, no, of course not.
Well you've all got blood on your hands, there is no erasing the record.
So live with that stat before you go conjuring up any more of your bourgeois, regressive, straw man, weak and dangerous, mis-guided and un-realistic views and comments.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 8 December 2018 2:06:16 PM
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//but there still remains a great deal of archival footage, historical records,
Toni lavis,
Yes, but you left out the words 'selective' & 'sanitised'.//

Wow, the censors really dropped the ball on that one, didn't they? I mean, if you wanted to present a sanitised and selective version of Nazi history in order to paint them as being pro-PC, surely you'd redact all the stuff about their distinctly non-PC behaviour, like the Nuremberg laws and the death camps and so forth? Right?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 8 December 2018 3:59:36 PM
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Sometimes what people call 'PC' is just social pressure to treat other human beings decently. That's what's implied in the article ; Hence usually talk of 'PC' is a 'Beat Up' ; But at times there are effective restrictions on debate because of the fear of ostracism. For instance, in an article a long way back I argued that while the term 'mansplaining' could refer to a condescending and sexist argument by a man ; at some times the term may potentially be used inappropriately - and may be used to silence a man who has a different viewpoint. I said that in the context of supporting feminism strongly ; And I made that very clear. I have strong opinions on achieving equality in the labour market, the home , public life , sport and culture. But I was publicly crucified and misrepresented on Facebook for several days ; taken out of context ; accused of 'misogyny'. For me that was an example of there being a limit even on sympathetic debate for fear of ostracism. That's the 'grain of truth' ; amidst the reality otherwise that 'Political Correctness' is beaten up by the monopoly mass media using examples that bear little relation to reality.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Saturday, 8 December 2018 8:19:38 PM
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Tristan, I really am curious as to what you said that could get such a reaction as you describe.
Maybe you mixed a couple of words up and it twisted what you were intending to say.
Tristan, what PC means is, it is a language which stops people from telling the truth.
It has been hi-jacked by the left to help them feel good about themselves and silence the progressive right.
Unlike you, I do not subscribe to equality between the sexes, for anything.
I do not get how anyone cannot see that we are not equal.
The men have been going about their business since time began, without the need for equality.
Some petulant spoilt halfwit of a female, suddenly decides she is as good as any man and starts pushing this childish agenda.
Given that the females fall way short of the line in nearly all male sporting codes, the arrogance of these females is beyond stupid.
I won't waste anyone's time in explaining why.
I heard some idiot female on a panel, ask why the female footballers were not being paid as much as the males?
The answer was rammed down her stupid throat, and it was; when they can generate the same income and attendances as the males, we will talk then, but right now we have a bunch of headless chooks running around aimlessly just making fools of themselves.
The 'fear' you speak of is unfounded.
If the speaker speaks aggressively, he must be allowed to convey his message, even if the listener finds it offensive or abrasive in his delivery.
There is no room for emotions, as emotions do not add or offer any 'real substance to a debate or conversation.
such people need to suck it up and move on, or remove themselves from the conversation or debate, and not return until they have had a reality check.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 9 December 2018 3:25:31 AM
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I'll repeat what I've written on another discussion.

Only very limited minds can declare their opinions to
be a certainty or a truth.

Therefore to argue with someone like ALTRAV, who has
renounced the use and authority of reason and whose
philosophy consists in holding the opinions of others
in contempt (especially females), is like administering
medicine to the dead, or endeavouring to convert an
atheist by scripture.

There's no point to it.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 December 2018 9:45:51 AM
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Foxy, your wasting your time.
Whilst I am entertained and amused at how some people react to certain things, you persist with your narrow, closed minded agenda.
I have already explained some of my life's effort's and successes, and I'm pretty happy with myself.
What I am not happy about, and never have been, is the lack of effort and failures of people in this country, and since getting on forums, I now know the reasons.
Even though you are a nice person and you mean well, you refuse to, at least consider, that I might have a point, for fear of being seen as suddenly coming across.
It's ironic that you should be criticising me, based on your very fettered 'opinions' when you are guilty of the very things you accuse me of.
Please carry on, I find it immensely entertaining, and quite honestly truly engaging.
Foxy, I love our, sometimes heated and aggressive intercourse, (verbal that is).
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 9 December 2018 11:20:03 AM
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