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An Australian population policy? : Comments

By Max Rawnsley, published 5/12/2018

How should a ‘population’ policy relate to our major urban and regional centres? Where is the public consultation?

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DD,

I have come to the conclusion that you are Muslim; that, or you are entirely ignorant of their vicious creed. Although most Muslims are ignorant of Koranic teachings, so you might just be an apologist. It's hard to believe that anyone who has read the Koran - and not just listened to imams - could remain a Muslim and and feel comfortable with themselves.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 12:44:50 PM
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calwest,

Yes. Diversity and multiculturalism are curses. You cannot build a cohesive society based on such nonsense. You cannot develop and maintain a sense of national identity. And it's not just Muslims who are a problem.

Syria is an extreme example of what happens when a country lacks a sense of identity. There is no sense of loyalty to the entity 'Syria'. There is only loyalty to one's sect, ethnic group, or religion. When the government weakens, the country falls apart.

In Australia, unassimilated immigrants are a drag on the state, and in some cases, a threat to security.

In the U.S. it is now accepted that white Americans will be in a minority by the middle of this century. The same thing will happen here.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 1:04:35 PM
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There will never be an enquiry into the best population policy for Australia as long as the current Liberal and Labor governments are massively in favour of a BIG Australia.

An attorney doesn't ask a witness a question, unless the answer to that question will help him win his case. A politician doesn't have an enquiry done unless the results of that enquiry will help him continue with the policies he favours.

Peter Costello stupidly initiated a Productivity Commission enquiry into the economic impacts of high immigration in 2007. The Productivity Commission came back with the conclusion that increased "skilled" immigration made the rich property owners and business owners better off, the migrants better off and the great majority of the middle class and working class slightly worse off. This left Uncle Pete coughing and spluttering excuses, but the more recent crop of politicians understood the error of his ways and vowed never to repeat the same mistake.

I heartily agree with Max Rawnsley's article. It is simply stupid to try to plan for the future if you don't know what the population will be in the future.

The subtext, of course, is that inside the corridors of power they do know what the future population will be and that is as big as they can make it without getting voted out of office.

It is hopeful to think of the Australian voter dumping the big Australia crowd but the big business interests and other pro-growth advocates aren't sitting on their hands. They are actively employing lobbyists and public relations people to make sure that the high growth train keeps chugging forward.
Posted by ericc, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 2:13:16 PM
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ericc, suggest you either learn or polish up your mandarin, given without a larger population and the self-dependent security and economic biff that will give us! Almost certain to follow Tibet and a few china sea islands as the lastest an uncontested Chinese possessions.

And that goes for the rest of you extreme right-wing misfits, who seriously believe, that we are threatened by migrants from the middle east. Many of who are just persecuted minorities. e.g., Syrian, Lebanese and Egyptian Christians, Or blue-eyed Turks and Iraqis who also happen to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ! Blue eyes and Christian belief the legacy of their forebears and the enduring crusades.

And if the cap fits?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 5 December 2018 4:06:39 PM
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Alan B -
"You say - as you all can see? As a partially sighted person, I use/absolutely rely on Grammarly to ensure my Grammer is word perfect.

This app is not user-friendly, tends to stop here and start inserting into already typed diction!

Just to ensure the writer looks like the local dribbling village idiot."

I respond by saying simply "thank you" for all your contributions to On Line in the past, and in the future, I was not aware you are a partially sighted person and have enjoyed reading your posts and contributions to on line forums for years.

You have no need to apologise for anything ...... you see it's quite simple ..... I (and many others) were brought up to respect all ..... no matter what color, creed or religion.

The "respect" seems to have been lost in current climate. We can all differ on opinions, however it seems the "debate" factor currently is it's my way or the high-way.

We need to protect our "freedom of speech" and culture - and in doing so, acknowledge and respect all those who fought for our freedoms during World War 1 and 2 including our Vietnam Vets.

I also include or others from differing countries and cultures throughout ensuring years.
Posted by SAINTS, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 6:22:35 PM
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You state - "Minister Tony Burke’s portfolio failed to present Labor’s perspective. ‘Population’ was in his portfolio for nearly three years, 2010-2013, without any tangible result.

He was the Minister - wasn't he? - when the enormous amounts of "illegal boat people" arrived on our shores?

No, we don't forget.....50,000 arrivals.... with 1,200 - that we know of lost at sea.

As you say Labor's population portfolio being in his portfolio for nearly three years 2010 to 2013 without any tangible result.

Yes, you are right. 17 detention centres had to be opened during this time from 2013 onwards.

Is one seriously saying we didn't have a problem during 2013 - onwards. As these "illegal" boat people were tossing their documents overboard in order to land in Australia.

And yes, it has been confirmed via activists as these illegal boat people were in contact with activists - having tossed their documents overboard - in order they would get Government to ensure their passage.

Do you want to hear more?
Posted by SAINTS, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 7:02:27 PM
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