ALTRAV,
I suggest you direct your criticism to someone else. My reply to Hasbeen related to energy use, not commercial viability. The person who thought recycling everything was an energy problem was Alan B.; I explained why it wasn't.

Aidan, sorry, I appologise unreservedly.
To Alan, I am not against the idea of recycling.
I am against the idea of recycling, at any cost.
This is a fools reasoning.
Humans do not take kindly to being told they have to spend money to fix anything.
They have become used to a particular routine and don't change, even when it is for a good cause/reason.
It's like the electric cars.
I reject them because they cost more than 5 times the equivalent of their petrol or fossil fueled cousins.
They travel less than their fossil fueled cousins and take forever to recharge.
There's more but it'll do for now.
So you can see that until the cost of purchase and running such cars comes down it is not a good idea.
And so it is with recycling.

No Altrav, electric cars are more like twice the price of the IC equivalent.
Even at that they are too expensive. They are about $20,000 dearer
here than the same car overseas.

But don't you fools realise that electric cars have be more economical than conventional cars, because the fairies come out at night and pedal their hamster-wheels flat-out, in order to make virtuous, carbon-free energy ? That electric cars are innocent of any accusation that their electricity is generated from coal or oil or gas ? That whoever owns an electric car is, by definition, virtuous ?

Maybe I had that wrong. Maybe electric cars are powered exclusively by renewable energy sources ? Which, in turn, have been produced using only renewable energy ?

Twenty thousand extra ? Serves those goat-cheese wnakers right.

Joe