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Your memory may be hiding the inconvenient truth about climate change : Comments

By Misia Temler, published 13/8/2018

There is already some evidence that creation of collective social memories, through media narratives, images and memes, can raise awareness for the potential threats of global warming.

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More interesting than another article on climate change jiggery poky is one I have just read advising that, in Texas, electricity costs 14 cents per kwh: about a third of what I pay in the failed state of South Australia. All down to the much-maligned Donald Trump, who has also been responsible for the second quarter growth rate of 4% in the U.S. We really need to do something about our hopeless politicians, who definitely fit into the 'not suitable for purpose’ category.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 13 August 2018 10:44:34 AM
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Just how stupid are these people?

In her second sentence she refutes her whole piece in stating "Australia experiences the driest autumn since 1902", then blames this dry period on today's higher levels of CO2. You have to wonder if this woman could make change foe a $5 bus ticket from a $10 note, without a calculator.

It always shows that these things are written by fools, who don't even understand what they are saying. She then waffles on about record temperatures, perhaps not even knowing far hotter events occurred in the late 1800s, now expunged from the referred to history.

Academia must be getting desperate to enlist dills like this one to push their scam. This sort of rubbish will bring a few more useful idiots to their senses each time they appear.

It really is frightening to realise that courts have depended on the advice of dills like this one in assessing criminals.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 13 August 2018 11:17:36 AM
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Dr Burger used rock samples in his research into the end Permian mass extinction, he analysed chemical particles from his rock samples which supported the view already reached by other researchers that greenhouse gases had been instrumental in the mass extinction that had occurred. Dr Burger had found particles that were contingent with molten larva igniting coal seams.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/323402270_What_caused_Earth%27s_largest_mass_extinction_event_New_evidence_from_the_Permian-Triassic_boundary_in_northeastern_Utah

Michael Benton, in film also says that it had been greenhouse gases that had created the mass dying at the end of the Permian Epoch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envK-qWyDU0

The PETM was also a Epoch when mass dying took place, greenhouse gases were involved, though it is not clear which greenhouse gas was the main contributor.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180809125546.htm

Nathaniel Rich wrote a 30,000 word article for the New York Times magazine where he traced the history of a general acceptance that climate changes a major matter to conservative politicians and their retinue halting any action. The conservative politicians and their staff were able to set up a social climate enabling denier Agencies such as Heartlands to receive funding from fossil fuel companies to discredit climate science. It is necessary to register to see the article in full, Rich has interviewed scores of people for his article.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/01/magazine/climate-change-losing-earth.html

Professor Mann has stated recently that currently we are in a crisis in relation to climate, do nothing and it will become catastrophic. Already huge numbers of people are being killed through climate change. It has been stated over 4,000 have died as result of Hurricane Maria on Puerto Rico.

It is a difficult proposition to argue against recent mega research as provided by:

http://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/publications/bulletin-of-the-american-meteorological-society-bams/state-of-the-climate/
Posted by ant, Monday, 13 August 2018 11:17:42 AM
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Misia Temier may be skilled in memory related areas, but she displays her ignorance of the underlying science when it comes to ‘climate change’ by accepting without question the unsubstantiated claims and scaremongering made by the IPCC and its followers.

If you believe the IPCC, only ~3.8% of total emissions of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere arise from burning fossil fuels (IPCC AR5) with another .5% from land use change.

The major source of emissions, some 95.7% they admit, are all from a multitude of natural sources. Carbon dioxide emissions increase as a consequence of temperature increase (good supportive science) therefore to claim that they have become the principle cause of the warming is mendacious.

Historically the world has predominately been considerably warmer than it is now, without the runaway catastrophic scenario she enthusiastically but fancifully embraces.

Carbon dioxide is only a minor greenhouse gas, swamped by water vapour in both the radiation spectrum it operates in and in its atmospheric concentration.

Carbon dioxide is a vital plant food and the well recorded current ‘greening of the Earth’ (NASA) as a result of increasing levels, bears testimony to its many benefits for all biota, including mankind.

We are now living at the low end of historic levels of this trace gas, (at just over 400 parts per million) and increasing these levels will continue to be beneficial (thousands of trials).

Climate has always changed. When we eventually, inevitably return to full glacial conditions again, we will really have something genuine to worry about.
Posted by Ian McClintock, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:01:23 PM
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More on the most devastating effect of the carbon dioxide con - massive increases in the cost of electricity: Tony Abbott has told Ray Hadley that the NEG is seriously bad policy. It does not concentrate on reducing price, which is the only thing that really counts for consumers, but it is all about reducing (harmless) emissions. The NEG model is “fanciful”.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:27:48 PM
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Inconvenient or not! There can be no longer any doubt that climate change is real and we have caused some of it.

Or that only the most recalcitrant dunderheads will continue to vote for troglodytes who think it's all CRAP and even want to use taxpayer's money to build new coal-fired power station?

or equally gormless somehow believe we can all go vegan even as the drought bites ever deeper into food production and turns former salad bowls into dust bowls.

Why!?

So that some foreigners and their local spit lickle lackeys can avoid sovereign risk!? And or, continue to earn, coal-fired dividends?

And that the only solution in real prospect! That serves us all rather than a privileged few or inner city latte sipping green dunderheads is nuclear power.

Not just any nuclear power but rather thorium and walk away safe MSR!

And with it obtain CHEAPER THAN COAL, SAFER THAN COAL AND MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER THAN COAL, dispatchable reliable, AFFORDABLE power!

And use just some of it to DROUGHT PROOF this wide brown land and now before one more farmer is driven to prematurely ending his or her own life!

And it's not because can't is or ever was part of the equation!

Just bloody-minded politicking WON'T! Won't have a royal commision into power pricing, because what that might actually reveal!?

LIKE A LABOR PARTY WHOSE POLICY PARADIGMS NEVER INCLUDE WALK AWAY SAFE, THORIUM BASED, MSR! CHEAP, SAFE, CHEAP, CLEAN CHEAP, RELIABLE, CHEAP, AFFORDABLE, CHEAP, DISPATCHABLE POWER.

WHY?

BECAUSE STUPID, IT'S NOT LABOR PARTY POLICY! AND ENDLESSLY REPEATED HOWEVER THE QUESTION IS PHRASED OR PUT!

AND POSSIBLY BECAUSE OF ESTIMATED POWER PRICES AS LOW AS A VERY CHEAP 2 CENTS PER KWH!? THINK WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO ENERGY DEPENDANT GOVERNMENT REVENUE!?

And or, from the same boneheads who think climate change is CRAP and GW is just a scam of a hitherto impossible scale, JUST TO MAKE MONEY!?

UNBELIEVABLE AND MASSIVELY IRRESPONSIBLE! OR EVEN TO EVEN CONSIDER VOTING FOR THESE CLOWNS EVER AGAIN!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 13 August 2018 12:49:34 PM
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