Dear runner,

I don't know whether I am more or less intelligent than Jesus Christ. The things that he was supposed to have said and done were written down a number of years after he died. I don't know whether he really existed or was just a figment of someone's imagination. Some of the things that Jesus was supposed to have said were questionable.

Jesus supposedly said Matthew 10:37 "Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

Whether Jesus existed and whether I am more or less intelligent than he was if he existed I can't know. However, if he said what he was quoted as saying he was not a good person demanding than he be loved more than a mother, father, son or daughter. I would certainly never demand that of anybody as it is an unreasonable demand. If he said I know I am a much more decent person than Jesus.

My point has just be proven by you David f. It can only be total ignorance or deceit that leads one to the conclusion that Jesus Christ might not of existed. Usually the kind of people who deny a baby born with a penis is a boy. And you claim to be rational! psss

Dear runner,

Once people believed Thor, Jupiter, Apollo and a lot of other gods existed. Now people realise they existed only in people's imagination. There simply is no reliable documentary evidence that Jesus or God exists or existed. I think they exist only in your imagination. The fact that many believe is not proof. Muslims believe that Mohammed was a great guy. You believe differently. There is documentary evidence that Mohammed existed although many of the stories about him were made up. You have your beliefs. You find comfort in them. Muslims have their beliefs and find comfort in them. I can see no reason that I should believe in any religion.

You have questioned my character and judgment since I don't believe what you believe. A Muslim told me I was going to hell because I didn't believe what he believed. He was a blond, Germanic looking Moroccan. At one time in the past his ancestors must have become Muslims as the religion didn't exist at one time. At one time in the past your ancestors must have become Christians as the religion didn't exist at one time. Religions come and go.

If you have descendants you can't know what they will believe or not believe. I have descendants, and the same goes for me.

Obviously, sense is not required for superstition & politics.

'I can see no reason that I should believe in any religion.'

you have little 'reason' David f. The denial of a Creator, the abundant evidence that Jesus Christ existed and your moral conscience all point to the obvious. Your denial and repeated dogmas can't and won't change the truth. Hopefully you will be smart enough one day to swallow your pride and open your eyes.

Guys OK, I have misquoted myself.
In my haste to suggest an independent source of rules for mankind to live by in harmony, I should have said the 'Ten Commandments'.
I appologise, as I clearly do not subscribe to the various Bibles myself, simply because they are flawed in their attempt to sway people.
And I must concede that I too have had grave concerns about the teachings of ALL religions as I know religion was used to 'control' people by the use of fear.
The Ten Commandments are much less ambiguous and thereby simpler to negotiate.
I'm not sure, but in reading these holy books, I found too many contradictions and extreme practices or demands asked of followers, that are not acceptable or even legal in today's world.
The Bible has too many contradictory statements.
On the other side Muslims are beholding to a cruel and sadistic set of rules that absolutely do not fit in with today's social demands.
As much as Muslims want the rest of the world to accept their teachings and dogma, unless they curb aggression towards non-believers, or edit their 'Bible' by removing any passages that are anti-social, they will not achieve that social cohesion or acceptance they seek.
Currently they do not seek our approval but instead demand our submission or be killed.
This is at the core of them being rejected.
I do not wish to quote the obvious but, we cannot ignore the fact that we have a group or 'religion' that advocates violence or worse within our very midst.
Who, amongst us can tell us which ones are the ones we need to be wary of.
THEY have warned us, so don't be dismissive.
BTW, I can't think of another religion we have allowed into Australia that has caused such turmoil, fear and angst amongst the rest of the country as Muslims have.
This fact alone should be a warning to us all.