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Free speech : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 23/7/2018

Free speech is under threat in Australia. I am trying to do something about it, with four weighty bills to remove unwarranted restrictions on free speech from Commonwealth law.

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Rache, you just made one of my points.
You see I'm a WOG and I'm not offended.
I grew up with it as a term of endearment.
I say exactly what I need to say to make a point or deliver a message.
Other commentors on OLO will tell you I have always written in the language I grew up with; Australian.
I constantly use words like skip, abo and sometimes refer to bent and twisted misguided 'females' as maggots.
I do so with purpose.
The written word is lacking in it's ability to convey emotion or inflection.
So I use words to make up for this short fall.
If I wish to insult, vilify, abuse or just annoy someone for whatever reasons, it is not for public scrutiny because the public are not a part of my comments.
If and when they are I will convey the appropriate message accordingly.
Public civility is earned.
Given that the public puts on one face but when confronted with something THEY find objectionable, they immediately change and throw a stream of threats to justify themselves.
I am free to say what I want if the situation calls for it and yes if you challenge someone and they don't like it I fully expect physical retaliation.
But my point is, is what I said true or not?
If it's true then the retaliation says more about them than it does about me.
If my name calling is unjustified then it's about me.
If not then it again says more about them.
I will never sugar coat or soften a point just because it might offend.
Yours and lefty logic is unnatural.
You are attempting to make us all something we are not.
It matters not what people think of me it has nothing to do with the topic of conversation.
Your premise is based on a very childlike ideology.
My message to you and your followers is, grow up, take it like men, and stop trying to pull men down to the level of neuters and males.
Are you male or man?
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 3:44:59 AM
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//Why would you think it's acceptable in any fair and reasonable society to be able to defame, sexually harass, bully, threaten or vilify anybody on the basis of race or sexual orientation or any other aspect with which you happen to personally disagree?//

Because he's not the full quid.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 6:13:56 AM
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Toni, by your continual carry on you have foolishly fallen into your own trap.
You can't just make these types of comments without justification.
Now either explain your reasoning or stop shooting yourself in the foot.
I on the other hand have stated many times, to the point of ad nauseam that I care not what personal attacks I have to ignore, because people have no viable response to my comments and resort to exposing themselves due to a lack of reasoning and understanding.
If I make a comment, unless it can be proven to be wrong, it is my comment and I don't expect the loony left and the like to agree, so thank you for your comments.
I leave you with a very well known phrase.
'Say nothing and be thought a fool, or speak and have it confirmed'.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:19:23 AM
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"Why would you think it's acceptable in any fair and reasonable society to be able to defame, sexually harass, bully, threaten or vilify anybody on the basis of race or sexual orientation or any other aspect with which you happen to personally disagree?"

The problem is working out who gets to decide what's fair and reasonable. Unfortunately it ends up being governments and bureaucrats with something to hide. OR SJW who want society to conform to their way of thinking.

"Why can't I be allowed to shout "fire" in a crowded theatre".

You can...if there's a fire..or if you think there's a fire.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 2:24:53 PM
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//You can't just make these types of comments without justification.//

I don't see why not. You do it all the time.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 3:23:35 PM
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Toni, again you display a lack of knowledge and imagination.
You fail to see that the very thing this topic is about is to combat exactly what you are guilty of and strongly supports me and my stance.
You and your lot are the real problem.
If I find that someone is talking rubbish, such as ANTIFA and the loony left, just a couple of examples,I will not allow them to try to influence weak minds into believing their tripe.
It is incumbent upon people like myself to bring these people to account.
If you are such a person, I feel sorry for you and only hope that you broaden your scope of experiences so as to see what actually goes on out there and what is being said by the mature and informed majority and not the immature and un-informed minority.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:20:53 PM
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