Shadow Minister,

Dead right. Some of the gormless goons were openly saying they would vote against the facility before the 'jury' even convened and the facts were heard and discussed.

A cynic might wonder whether aboriginal groups are being co-ordinated, perhaps by non-aborigines in the city. For example on TV we've seen aboriginal people from both Hawker SA and Muckaty NT use the term 'sickness country'. Those groups are a thousand kilometres apart so it seems like someone compared notes on what terms to use. Fortunately aboriginal groups near Wiluna WA and Ranger NT have agreed to uranium mining.

If city based agitators are manipulating aboriginal communities for their own agenda it's a bit weak. I'm not sure if Dr Green thinks reducing coal and gas dependence is a good idea but France has about 50 grams of CO2 per average kilowatt-hour of electricity compared to our 800 grams or so. I somewhat resent being held to ransom by dragging other people into it.

I'm not 100% against nuclear but remained to be convinced that its appropriate for Australia - something people are not getting about Aboriginal Elders is that we denoted a bomb on their land - "we" think the land is worthless they don't - when things like long time periods of radioactive half life get mentioned our brains switch off - theirs don't. I'll roughly paraphrase a quote from a Lenora elder I read about - "We believe the white man will leave our lands when they get tired of digging things up" If we start 'growing' materials like carbon fibre at the nano level thats perhaps only a century away, for them thats not long - a civilisation 10s of 1000s years old thinks differently - alot of their culture is based on observation - marital system is a text book example of genetic diversity where as Europe's didn't get much beyond animal husbandry - they understood whales and dolphins where once land dwellers and that humans were the youngest of species reflecting an advanced understanding of evolution - some central parts of Australia were never really conquered - their position isn't religious they just have a different perspective, go figure! Unfiltered contempt for Indigenous people won't fly.

Couple of other points - using nuclear waste to generate electricity could be great - even influence nuclear weapons treaties but u need to lobby to actually see the tech fully developed- Second Institutional integrity over long time periods is not a strong trait in Neo Liberal economies- look at Tepco - even without Fukushima they r a corrupt mess - I'm not sure Australia would be much different.

Hi Zeroxcliche,

Thanks for a good laugh ! Aboriginal people married, not like other people, therefore they have the most sophisticated marital system in the world. They knew that whales and dolphins were once land-dwelling mammals - how ? Perhaps you would like too suggest that, if an Aboriginal person is flatulent, that shows they know all about the relationships between pressure, temperature and density - and did so long before the Greeks ? Hooke ? - pah ! That they ate plants, therefore they had a full classificatory knowledge of all native plants, which of course they now own as well ?

My favourite is the 'elder' who explained that young fellas were allowed to take fish from fish traps 'only when there was a blue moon'. So Aboriginal people had 30-day months, perhaps a few of 31 days, and a full calendar year of 365+ days ? My bet is that that 'elder' actually thought a blue moon was blue.

And another genius here in SA who declared that 'Yep, we had a name for every star.' Clearly, he had never been out in the bush and looked up on a moonless night.

Someone should compile a large book of all of the outlandish claims that have been made just in there last ten or twenty years - that Aboriginal people had the most sophisticated mathematical system in the world: 1, 2, more than 2 .....; Aboriginal culture was all the same across Australia [Hindmarsh Island scam]; Aboriginal people weren't hunters and gatherers at all, they were farmers - Mitchell saw a field nine miles long in which the kangaroo grass looked like it had been 'stooked'. They had the most advanced child-care and education systems in there world. Towns and roads. That they traded with China long before the Europeans ever did.

And so on. And on. All good for a laugh.

Thanks Zeroxcliche,

Joe

Alan B, I like your thorium based proposition.
From what little I have looked up about it, I find it incredibly worthwhile.
As an industrial designer, it seems to tick all the boxes.
Namely, ease of handling, usage, efficiency, and the most important; cost per unit of energy!
The main factors holding progress back is return on investment.
The govt won't look at it because of vested interests and their fear of being outed because thorium will put them out of business.
Industry won't take it on because they know of the greedy elements in govt, so they don't want to lose favour either.
Even if there were private investors, they would not succeed because of the vested interests and the govt will always reject anything which threatens the on going kick-backs from grants and the like, they receive from these other absolute time and money wasting half-wit ideas like wind and solar.
It is easier to rip off the community when they are too stupid and un-informed about the true 'real' world and what is ACTUALLY going on, not what they want to believe is going on.
Musk's success is focused around investors.
I don't know who's backing him but apparently he has an open cheque book.
I've never witnessed such backing as large as this for one person and such faith.
It is not normal and leads me to the conclusion that the Bilderberg Group, or some very, very wealthy people are backing him almost mindlessly.
Nowhere in history has anyone been given so much money to do so many projects at the same time, ie; batteries, electric cars, electric trucks, electric planes, space X, etc.
It's not normal and the reason it's not normal is that nearly always it has been proven, it's not possible.
His big battery joke in SA for example.
All the media hype and BS.
All the thing could do was power a handfull of houses for about 45mins.
I wish I knew how to get a working model of thorium up and running at a scale which would at least attract investors.

No one seems to consider that any so called aboriginal chamber of
whatever design will need a sunset clause so that after a number
of generations it will be closed permanently.
The reason is simple, there will be no aborigines or if you like we
will all be aborigines.

Today on the TV a white aborigine was telling journalists to end
their racialism. Well recently especially in the universities
there has been a lot of anti white racilism, hmmm.