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UK deradicalisation program a massive fail : Comments

By Russell Grenning, published 21/6/2018

In an even more disturbing case, another schoolboy, also 15, who thought that Muslim women shouldn't wear the full face-veil was identified as a potential far-right terrorist.

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Deradicalisation doesn't work anywhere. How stupidly arrogant are those who thought it would! The people they thought they could de-radicalise don't think of themselves as radical. The 'deradicalisers’ are the same people who thought that a cult like Islam could be assimilated into Western society. They have failed, and now they have had to turn their wooden tops and plods into a sort Gestapo to hound and jail their own British people who criticise what they are doing and the Muslims who are are changing the face of Britain. Not much longer now, and what they are calling radical will be the norm in Merry Old England.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 June 2018 9:33:22 AM
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Are they honestly saying that schoolkkds who disagree with Muslim migration or the wearing of the burqa are radicals who need to be re- educated?
Surely not, that seems to be an totally over the top politically correct reaction.
Posted by Big Nana, Thursday, 21 June 2018 9:38:02 AM
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We can see from this article who the real enemy is, and no surprises for guessing the real enemy is on our side.

The old saying goes; who needs enemies when you have friends like these?

Kicking an own goal, jumps up to meet us. We have these same idiot types running Australia into the ground, as the example in this article, where the poor will now wait longer for a council flat in England. Decisions made in high places by sycophants patting each other on the back, who are comfortably housed themselves, and with lights that work at the flick of a switch; all services paid up….No concept of the desperate situation confronting the “ trailer- park” girls.

So ladies and gentlemen, who are the “actual” evil doers amongst us. My suggestion, let's start the I.D. process in our own back yard with tax dodging Turnbull and his counterpart, the town Sheriff Shorten.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 June 2018 9:54:11 AM
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"Islam is the biggest cult of them all. To give it the respectability of calling it an Abrahamic faith is an affront both to reason and to the Judeo-Christian God."

Can't recall who said that, but it's spot on.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 June 2018 10:01:34 AM
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Well, the U.K. Is the country that produced Rotherham and many other examples. More multi-culti pixie dust won't make the slightest difference to the 'sudden jihadi' threat.
Politicians on both sides of Parliament realise this, however they can't admit it to the public.
Posted by mac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:29:38 AM
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Meanwhile they lock up Tommy Robinson largely for uncovering Islamic paedophile rings and then reporting on it. UK is heading for total diaster. Look what they did to Enoch Powel when he warned them of this 30 or 40 years ago. Another total failure by leftist dogma.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:33:23 AM
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//Meanwhile they lock up Tommy Robinson largely for uncovering Islamic paedophile rings and then reporting on it.//

Nope, that's bollocks. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon hasn't 'uncovered' any paedophile rings; that was the police. He's not an investigative journalist, just a loud-mouthed thug so desperate for attention that he was willing to break the law to get it. Sad little child acting out to get attention. No wonder you're such a fan, runner.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:04:42 PM
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If you can't deradicalise them? then all that's left is the cancelling of citizenship status, that must flow through to parents and grandparents?

Who can be deemed to be part of the problem?

And until able to be deported or relocated somewhere that'll have them? To be interred in offshore P.O.W. camps. Exactly like, when at war! Given this is exactly the case.

Can't forget, the sight of a young nurse brutally knifed while running to help victims of this madness! And not something innocent noncombatant populations ought abide!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:35:00 PM
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The deradicalisation programme wasn't about deradicalising youths of that religion that doesn't have anything to do with terrorism.

It was about appearing to do somthing. That it is a waste of time and money isn't the point. Governments have to be seen to addressing the issue. But the things that would actually address the issue are way too unpalatable for the governing classes. Therefore its smoke and mirrors time. If they were serious about doing something to address the problem (rather than appearing to do something) they'd have incarcerated every returning ISIS fanboy. And they'd prosecute Imams who preach hatred. And they'd close mosques where the radicals proliferate. And they stop Muslim immigration. And they'd ban the burka and FGM and child marriage and polygamy.

But all these things are unthinkable because that would mean confronting the actual problem AND admitting that the previous policies were bollocks, and the various governments aren't gunna do that.

So placate the citizens by appearing to do something and when the next attack comes promise to do something else - after pointing out that the attack had nothing to do with the religion of peace - no really, trust me, nothing at all </sarc>
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 21 June 2018 1:25:51 PM
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"Stephen Yaxley-Lennon hasn't 'uncovered' any paedophile rings; that was the police."

Well that's a bit true. But it wasn't the police. It was indeed journalists who forced the police and the government to finally address an issue that they'd tried very hard to ignore because it would have been racist to address it. Not appearing racist is much much more important than the lives of 10- 20000 white kids.

http://steemit.com/familyprotection/@ura-soul/john-wedger-british-police-whistleblower-who-exposed-large-scale-child-sex-prostitution-gangs-and-was-attacked-by-his-bosses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XldF_4d69w

The video (second link) is quite long, but if you want to see just how decepit British society has become, its a must watch.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 21 June 2018 1:30:58 PM
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yes well here is what is happening in Sydney. Dozen or so muslims bashing a coptic Christian telling him to go home. Of course nothing from abc. Certainly does n ot fit their deceitful narrative. To busy trying to find an Islamaphobic attack they might be able to report on.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 21 June 2018 4:21:11 PM
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The UKs a write off, I told you all that ages ago.
Why don't you fools listen to what the 'actual terrorist' said?
Or are you all too busy believing your own fairytales?
- A former radical Islamist turned anti-extremist Sohail Ahmed said, "There are still some people in this country who are still loyal to what Britain stands for and I don't think they will be having any of this. I sincerely hope these plans do not go ahead."

You don't know what your talking about Toni.
Here's how the UK Govt treats people who are loyal to what Britain still stands for.
http://youtu.be/79TWaRCYPao

It's going to happen here too.
100% guaranteed, Australia will be totally stuffed like France, Germany, England too, just give it time.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 21 June 2018 9:32:02 PM
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//Well that's a bit true. But it wasn't the police. It was indeed journalists who forced the police and the government to finally address an issue that they'd tried very hard to ignore because it would have been racist to address it. Not appearing racist is much much more important than the lives of 10- 20000 white kids.//

And apparently, that's also a bit true. You're right, it wasn't the police, it was journalists (proper journalists, not white supremacist thugs with delusions of grandeur). Mea culpa. I don't suppose you know a good recipe for crow?

But I skimmed your article, and watched the whole video. Firstly, I have to say that the way that poor bastard was treated was appalling.

Secondly, it's pretty clear from his testimony in the video that the cover-up of this issue is about much more than race or religion. He specifically states around the 28:30 mark that the authorities are focused on child grooming as a religious issue (i.e. Muslim gangs), but that the problem is much bigger than that. The impression I received is that the attempt to cover up these issues is less about a fear of appearing racist, and more about a fear of how many people in the establishment - and in Britain that's usually the white, public school educated men - might also have their sordid crimes dragged into the light of day.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 22 June 2018 1:18:50 AM
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Well, Islam itself is radical. How do you expect Muslims to not follow the life example of their "prophet"? Muhammad was both a warlord as well as a paedophile. There has to be a reason why almost ALL the suicide bombers in the world are Muslim. Denying the facts is not helpful.
Posted by Steve Lee, Sunday, 24 June 2018 11:13:38 AM
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What you have been reading about in this thread has been going on
for a long time.
The police were protecting the grooming gangs, they just did not want
the hassle of having to deal with muslim gangs.
Anyone who stirred them up got arrested for Islamaphobia.
I have been reading about the police reluctance for about four years.
It was an open scandal but it needed the arrest of a blogger to stir
up the journalists.

Big Nana, it is a really big scandal the way the British Goverment
handled the whole thing, but to make it worse there is a new Bill
coming into the British Parliament that will make it a criminal
offence to critise Islam. I gather that a slow burn opposition to
this Bill is taking place as it threatens some rights of Magna Carta.
Britain is fast becoming ungovernable in the normal sense and London
or certainly certain parts will become the worlds Largest Muslim city.
If Paris does not get there first.

We should not forget the Bil Al gang here in Sydney.
Bil Skafe is currently applying for parole but I doubt that the girls
his gang abused would be happy with him getting out so soon.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 24 June 2018 5:00:52 PM
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