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Net interstate migration to Queensland is on the rise. Does this mean we are about to boom? : Comments

By Ross Elliott, published 15/6/2018

For net interstate migration to have a similar economic impact relative to the existing population, that 1.7% would today need to equate to 85,000 people per annum.

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Just means that the already horrendous traffic and environmental destruction will get even worse.
Posted by ateday, Friday, 15 June 2018 11:14:21 AM
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What utter fools these southerners must be.

Don't they realise that by 2020 the stink of the dead & rotting Great Barrier Reef means people will require permanent use of gas masks to be able to live in Qld.

If that is not bad enough, models are telling us that by 2025 global warming will have made the whole damn state too hot for humans to survive without a spacesuit.

By 2030 the same global warming will cause all our underground coal to spontaneously ignite, rendering all life impossible.

Mexicans go home.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 15 June 2018 1:32:22 PM
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Not necessarily!

But, it could well mean longer waiting times for treatment at a hospital or emergency ward. Or more kids jammed into already overcrowded non-air-conditioned classrooms.

Or pay rises for public servants, not because they do more work or have become more efficient, productive, or more fearless with their reasoned logical advice.

But rather they're administering (in time-wasting triplicate) bigger (not much) numbers.

We will continue to pay far too much for energy and from just one provider! Competition? Bah humbug!

Or the highest registration charges in the land. While the drongos currently in charge pat themselves on the back as they spend the increased mining royalties faster than they come in.

Nor have a practical plan to grow the economy by any other means than increase our share of the population.

Or make room for folk who can't afford Sydney or Melbourne house prices or winter heating bills!

Baby sardine swimming beside its mother just offshore from the concrete jungle that's now the Gold Coast said, look mum, tinned people!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 15 June 2018 2:39:39 PM
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Here's what a practical plan to grow the economy might look like whether or not we sell more gas and coal to China. And could be suddenly shut off to exercise new control?

Anyhow, we need to stop allowing a few control freaks inside Labor, to continue to prevent/prohibit nuclear power for peaceful purpose as official Labor policy!

With that done and dusted crack on with VERY SAFE MSR thorium and use it as waste burners that then mean other folks will pay (annual billions) for all the accompanying R+D and the build costs as well as supply hundreds of years worth of free fuel!

Which is what nuclear waste is, or if you will, unspent fuel!

Then with non-privatized unless it is as government facilitated and funded co-ops. Give virtually free power to any high tech energy dependant enterprise that wants to set up or relocate here.

And sell as much dispatchable peak load power to the southern states as they want or the grid can handle?

That no coal-fired power station can compete with

And or use any surplus to requirements, to turn endless seawater into (lighter than air) hydrogen which will rise as high as our highest peaks without pumps.

Then pass it through ceramic fuel cells to make on-demand peak load power and pristine water.

Which can then flow west and by design to our farthest far-flung communities and do some work on its way down!

Name your preference EINSTEIN!

Stored and used/piped when the drought burns the land?

And just the start of what could be possible if the drongos in charge grow a brain or a spine, or both!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 15 June 2018 3:11:07 PM
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Al…your thorium posts are as tedious as the bureaucracy-triplicates referred to.

Couldn't you post a live link back to a previous comment on the subject for those interested to follow.

Oh the other hand, your reference to the sardines and the sardine life style of those crammed into ever more dwellings built on ever decreasing land area, and representing the new age Gold Coast suburbia, is very succinct.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 15 June 2018 11:19:57 PM
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My tip is they are heading north simply because the cost of living expenses down south have forced them out.

Let's face it, we QLD are broke, and we have a higher than average unemployment rate, so it's not as if they are moving for work.

I hope i'm wrong, but I can't see how this is anything other than shifting the welfare burden from southern states to QLD. Perhaps it has something to do with the hundreds of thousands of illegals the government is resettling in the likes of Sydney.

I guess with the lower cost of living it was only a matter of time. So it may well cause a boom as such, because the first home buyer chasing their dream in the likes of Sydney for $600K will have a field day here. Their only hurdle will be in finding a secure job, and good luck with that, especially with the greens working harder than ever to shut down mining.

We sure are a self destructing race.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 16 June 2018 7:19:22 AM
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Hasbeen...

One of your better ones...very amusing, thank you!
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 16 June 2018 7:21:48 AM
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Diver, you just don't get it, do you?

Thorium is the most energy dense material on the planet!

And nuclear waste is just unpent fuel in any MSR!

Understand that we could burn this stuff for literally thousands of years, given the current size of the stockpile. With the pioneering economies reaping the greatest enduring rewards!

Look at this comparison and based on extrapolated Oak Ridge usage reports. A 30 MW light water reactor will in its 30 year lifetime, require 2551 tons of enriched and very costly uranium!

And then burn less than around 1 % of it, creating in the process, around 2550 tons of nuclear waste, or in our MSR's hundreds of years worth of unspent fuel. Fuel other folks will pay us annual billions to thoughtfully dispose of!

ANNUAL BILLIONS! And enough to pay for all the reactors, the wage and fuel bill!

And we would use MRS's as waste burners because they cannot melt down and have passive safety that automatically shuts them down if there's a power failure.

And because they are unpressurized, cannot replicate the Chernobyl disaster! CANNOT!

In contrast, the MSR thorium will need only one ton of abundant and far less expensive fuel for the operational lifetime.

And generate enough virtually free copious, flame-free heat. To convert our thermal coal to alternative fuels that will still cost a fraction of the stuff we currently import!

Creating myriad new industries far and wide, in the process!

And for as long as we need to!

If you want to see an economic boom and a period of (BORING) unprecedented prosperity? For all Australians!

Then all you need is truly affordable (BORING) electric power! NOW THAT WASN'T TOO HARD, WAS IT?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:41:07 AM
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Diver, recommend you type in, The case for thorium, into your search engine.

Then when it comes up, have a butchers at Kirk Sorensen' U tube presentation, in easily understood layman's language.

Or prize-winning, investigative Journalist, Richard Martin's easily understood, brief encapsulation of his book, Thorium, Super fuel, subtitled, green energy.

And available online at varying prices as low as a few dollars for preloved copies. And should be required reading for every Australian politician and Journalist!

Apart from that, U tube has presentations by several pro-thorium and highly credentialled experts, one of who is ivy league professor, (ret) economist Robert Hargreaves, who if you can sit through his aging presentation style?

Will inform you, that the estimate for private thorium power, could be as low as 1.98 cents PKH?

Or as we say here, per KwH. That's one point nine eight cents. or if you will a tad under two cents per Kwh!?

Power that cheap would have the car manufacturing queuing to relocate here. Along with virtually all energy-dependent, high tech manufacturing.

Add in genuine and previously explain/recommended tax reform and that queue would swell with every cashed up, self-funded, retiree from the four corners of the globe!

And with the latter, find/create full employment for every able-bodied (low skills) employee, who has been thrown of the (redundant) human scrap heap!

Given deionization, dialysis desalination is already cheap enough at today's (trialled in Texas) power prices to provide cost-effective broad scale irrigation!

Imagine what would be possible with the promise of thorium as the world's cheapest, world's safest, world's cleanest energy as the power source!

We can and should, become an island of sanity in a world gone mad!

Hope that helps?
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 16 June 2018 12:26:21 PM
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Thanks Al.

A comprehensive outline. Now if we can link this up to future posts, we can simply refer back to this post if we wish to be reminded.

DD.
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 16 June 2018 1:05:21 PM
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Diver, don't concern yourself. It's not you who needs the endless reminding bb and clueless as the day we gave them a gurnesy to waste on completely personal power trips. And those please explain pollies that remain just as dumb as the day they failed matric.

It's not you that needs reminding.

And given these posts are read, we're told, in the halls of power on capitol hill, number ten downing street and the corridors of power in Canberra, keeping the topic in front of their surprisingly short (goldfish?) attention span!?

May get the attention of one or two who currently have no program or policies, but instead, rely on the protest vote and dumbed down populism!

By the time I've finished, just about every poster would be able to run a MSR! Competently? And even explain what happens in the bowels, to almost any, please explain, Politician. And in simple plane language!
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 17 June 2018 7:38:48 PM
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