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Should religious protection extend to the marketplace? : Comments

By Chris Fotinopoulos, published 18/5/2018

Bigotry is bad business, so why not let the consumer determine who gets away with what in the marketplace.

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So Toni, you believe that we shouldn’t allow Muslim women to take over our swimming pools, that women in labour should be forced to accept a male midwife who makes her feel uncomfortable?
Just a few of the many situations where people currently get to chose who they deal with. I presume you are working hard to change all those areas of bigotry.
Posted by Big Nana, Saturday, 19 May 2018 6:07:59 PM
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I certainly don't condone vandalising businesses on the basis of selective or restrictive trade but a while ago read about a cafe that had a sign out front saying "We will continue to pay penalty rates".

Apparently afterward business there had never been better, so there are people out there with a sense of fairness and that's all that matters.

Bakers shouldn't be "forced" to bake cakes for any customer but if there are financial consequences they can't complain on the basis of discrimination.

They shouldn't be allowed to hide their prejudice from the public as if under a white hood as some had eagerly done a couple of generations ago (and many still do today).
Posted by rache, Sunday, 20 May 2018 1:29:43 AM
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//So Toni... [blah, blah, blah]//

Piss off, hibernophobe. We don't want your type in this country.

//I certainly don't condone vandalising businesses on the basis of selective or restrictive trade//

I do. Anybody around my neck of the woods that puts a 'no Irish' in their window should expect to have a brick hurled through it.

//so there are people out there with a sense of fairness and that's all that matters.//

No, it isn't all that matters. Because there are disgusting bigots like Big Nana out there too, and that also matters.

//but if there are financial consequences they can't complain on the basis of discrimination.//

And if they have to pay for some glazing to a replace a few bricked windows, they shouldn't be whinging about that either. Nobody is forcing them to be dicks.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 20 May 2018 7:39:36 AM
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Big Nana, I believe some of my commentary about your mental capability was uncalled for and unintentionally offensive. Which I unconditionally withdraw and apologise for. It seems I have a raw nerve when it comes to gender bias as some of my friends and three family members, chose to be born different! My sainted mother was born different and as hairy legged and strong as any man. Even had a hairy chest. And on the few occasions, we kids sent any quality time with her saw things we weren't supposed to. THAT ASIDE SHE WAS A GREAT MUM WHO SACRIFICED PLENTY FOR US INCLUDING FOOD! When there wasn't enough to go around. So forgive me for getting too emotional and passionately aroused when people through ignorance or recalcitrant intransigence, refuse to look at the overwhelming evidence for natural born sexual aberrations. Sincere apologies for the apparent offence! Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 20 May 2018 10:17:44 AM
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Alan, in your fervour to always dismiss anything I ever say, you always totally miss the point. I have never once advocated that anyone should be discriminated against because of their sexual orientation. Like race, these things are not a matter of choice. And to my knowledge no bakery has ever refused to serve their everyday goods to a gay person.
What I have always said is that people with religious or moral objections to a ceremony that offends them should have the right to not participate in that ceremony. Because that ceremony is a choice, and they have plenty of other options to cater to it.
Just as a woman in labour should have the right to refuse a male midwife.
Or medical staff with religious or moral objections to abortion or euthanasia should have the right to refuse to participate.
As you know, I have multiple aboriginal descendants and I always tell them that if a business treats them with disdain or rudeness, they should take their business elsewhere and spread the word amongst their friends.
As the article states, the free market would quickly settle any issues but the one thing you cannot forcibly change is people’s personal beliefs, nor should we have the right to do so.
And yes, I accept your apology.
Posted by Big Nana, Sunday, 20 May 2018 2:01:22 PM
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And as usual Al, you immediately swim circles in the pond of self pity on this subject.

Your Mother was also smart enough to keep her problems to herself; I bet!

When the homosexual element rub their S* in the faces of the 98% of the normal, expect a reaction!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 21 May 2018 7:23:48 AM
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