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Bioterrorism threatens : Comments

By Peter Curson, published 5/4/2018

The recent bioterrorist event in the UK casts an ominous shadow over the world.

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With Porton Down, the biggest biological chemical lab in Western Europe, located 8 miles from Salisbury, is it a coincidence this happened so close. Readers might want to read comments by Craig Murray, former UK ambassador, about The Elephant in the Room :" Nerve agents including Sarin and VX are manufactured by the British Government in Porton Down, just 8 miles from where Sergei Skripal was attacked. The official British government story is that these nerve agents are only manufactured “To help develop effective medical countermeasures and to test systems”. VX is the agent that killed Kim Jung Un's brother. Also an article about Chemical Warfare by Dr K. Kaiser, Cdn. scientist, is worth a read.
Posted by Francesca, Thursday, 5 April 2018 9:24:21 AM
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“While the likelihood of a bioterrorist incident in Australia or New Zealand may seem remote…..”.

It does seem remote, but only because we still have a saner immigration policy than does the UK and Europe. However, with the 'Big Australia’ policies of both our irresponsible political parties, with immigrants arriving from the Third World and dysfunctional states, the law of averages says that we are increasing our chances of importing nut cases who will be a threat.

All immigration except that to fill Australia’s most urgent needs should cease forthwith. We have had small taste of basic terrorism by idiots. It's only a matter of time before smarter lunatics among inappropriate immigrants try their luck
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:16:54 AM
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While bioterrorism is a real threat not easily dismissed, we are more likely to be hit by a car crossing the street at Bondi Junction? Than become the target of some brain washed moron? XXX One recalls how easy it was for Bryant to walk into a crowed restaurant/café near Hobart and just start killing at close range, at will, while his victims cowered, waiting their turn for a bullet! XXX This was a native, born and bred Taswegian! XXX Proving that we don't need to focus almost exclusively on foreign born nut jobs when there are plenty right here just waiting the right brain washing/radicalization and the necessary means! XXX And the right criminal/bent cop connection? To replicate that that home grown terror? XXX Even so, we are at greater risk, I believe, from our own medley of super bugs and would do well to create efficacious remedies to those, as a more pragmatic response? XXX After all, we could if we so chose use them against any future combatants and would do well to have a good store of antidotes! XXX Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:43:05 AM
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Novichok [1] being a nerve agent, is actually a CHEMICAL WEAPON [2]

hence the author should be talking CHEMICAL TERRORISM.

WMDs [3] are divided into Nuclear, Biological, Chemical and Radiological weapons.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_weapon

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:47:28 PM
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To anyone who is well aware what "False Flag" atrocities are, this appears almost certainly another. Try googling 'false flags" for a long list of now obvious ones carried out on behalf of governments in the past. Is when an atrocity is covertly arranged for the purpose of falsely blaming someone and /or pursuing an agenda. Now look at likely agendas behind this alleged chemical attack against the ex Russian double agent and his daughter. The popularity of Theresa May's Conservative government has been very low. Something that will rally people behind a government is fear of or actually being attacked. Then there are good reasons for falsely blaming the Russians. Seems one that did not work was to try and discredit Russian President Vladimir Putin and reduce his popularity just before the recent Presidential election. Western powers would like to see "regime change" - including Putin replaced with a puppet and stooge as Boris Yeltsin was. Much more obliging to the interests of US corporations especially

However, it seems the main agenda is to beat up the idea of a military threat by and possible war against Russia. A major reason for this is that the militaries, especially of the US and NATO need a perceived enemy to justify their existence and continued funding. The military industrial complex also need ongoing threats to ensure continued demand for their products. Also, political leaders covertly acting on their behalf obviously often keep tensions high rather than genuinely try to diffuse them - as this helps continued arms sales. The White need people of the likes of US Ambassador to tha UN Nikki Haley to try and achieve this.
Posted by mox, Thursday, 5 April 2018 2:16:58 PM
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Onya Moscow mox :)
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 April 2018 7:14:49 PM
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//To anyone who is well aware what "False Flag" atrocities are, this appears almost certainly another.//

Bollocks invented by conspiracy theorists who are allergic to Ockham's razor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qP2WVp7CnY

//Something that will rally people behind a government is fear of or actually being attacked.//

Yeah, that's what Islamic terrorism is for. If they just wanted to terrify people, they could have cooked up a false flag Islamic terrorist attack, which would have had the same effect on the people without needing to poke the Russian bear with a pointy stick.

//Western powers would like to see "regime change" - including Putin replaced with a puppet and stooge as Boris Yeltsin was.//

I think we'd all like Boris back. He may have been a buffoon, but he wasn't as threatening as an ex-KGB agent who seems determined to have a new Cold War... because that worked out so well for the Russian people before.

//However, it seems the main agenda is to beat up the idea of a military threat by and possible war against Russia.//

Yeah, I can just see the military bigwigs around the world queuing up to invade Moscow in the winter. Because that's worked so well in the past. [sarcasm]

I imagine that in this weird fantastical world you've created, it will be the French eagerly wading into the fray ahead of everybody else and the Americans will show up early for the war.

//The military industrial complex//

Ahh, right... you're one of those people. The sort of people who use the phrase 'military industrial complex' outside of its accepted usages: quotations, and taking the piss out of people like you.

Hey dude, pass that joint my way.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 5 April 2018 7:53:05 PM
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The reaction to my post by Toni Lavis is a classic example of how some people will defend the sort of stuff that has been strongly pushed by the mainstream media as was their own research. Need to remember that at times they push deliberate lies and half truths that the people who control them want believed. Nowadays, more than ever before thanks to the Internet those who question stories can check for alternative views.

Toni Lavis and others who like to think allegations of false flags are
just "conspiracy theories" ( a term apparently popularised by the CIA when they cannot readily refute truths they want kept hidden to try and discourage them from being taken seriously) should google "false flags" and check the long list of government initiated atrocities in the past that are now recognised as such. The recent poisoning of the ex Russian double agent and his daughter will most likely prove to be another. In this case for the purpose of vilifying Russia. However, note that NO PROOF gas yet been provided of what the poison was or who was responsible for it. Most likely never will be any. Meanwhile, the claims that Russia was responsible and insinuation that they supplied a particular poison have been endlessly repeated so they are widely believed despite almost certainly being deliberate lies. Then later if /when evidence comes out totally discrediting them, a quote attributed to Mark Twain applies. ie "It is easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled".
Posted by mox, Thursday, 5 April 2018 8:55:08 PM
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There is no hard evidence that the Novichok series of poisons were ever manufactured, in fact the plant at the centre of the original allegations, which I think was in Uzbekistan, was decommissioned by U.S inspectors after the end of the cold war.
The theory behind the Novichok series was that they could be quickly mixed from fairly readily available organophosphate pesticide components should the need arise; what is more, on the drawing board at least, they are so toxic that even the minutest contact would kill a person stone dead in seconds, they wouldn't be walking around and going to the pub for drinks.
The other problem is the method of delivery, smearing poison on a doorknob, again the Novichok agents are theoretically so dangerous that the assassins would have needed full chemical protection gear and decontamination afterwards to carry out the mission.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 6 April 2018 10:01:41 AM
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Regarding the ease of which a "bioterrorism" incident could occur, one only needs to think of our vulnerable coastline. Successive LNP governments since Fuhrer Howard's reign have diluted funding to NORFORCE and this has led to the increased pressure on Customs, AQIS, Border Force assets to conduct patrols in our Top End.

That the LNP claims it has "Stopped the Boats" is sheer unadulterated farce. It has advised its propaganda arm aka: The MSM/Electronic whorehouse that no SIEV's have landed on our shores and they are therefore gagged from reporting such events.

There was a landing of a SIEV at the Roper River Bar in the mid 2000's in which cats and dogs carrying rabies were fortunately left on board after the vessel stranded on the bar. It was only after children from an Indigenous community had found several of the irregular arrivals in a severely dehydrated condition, after walking inland from the landing site. The alarm was raised and a Regional Force Surveillance Unit arrived to assess the situation, estimated to be 24 - 36 hrs after the vessel grounded.

Rabies/Foot & Mouth let loose on this continent need not be pondered, the losses to our primary industries would be devastating.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Friday, 6 April 2018 9:19:28 PM
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I think stupidity is doing a good enough job...you don't need bio terrorism, and think of it...it's free...travels anywhere .....and is easily obtainable.....and best of all....this particular f/wit strain is made in Australia
Posted by Special Delivery, Saturday, 7 April 2018 5:43:51 PM
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