Hi notnowsoon, I don't mean not reported to the authorities but not reported in the media. We still need to keep statistics on theses things. Just not glorify them like happened in the case of Dolly. Young people see all that media coverage, out pouring of grief and public statements of how wonderful she was and how much everyone loved her and think "I want some of that".

Suicide can occur where a person has pain that is too great for them to bear. If bullying is the main cause of the pain, then it's pretty obvious that bullying caused the suicide. If bullying causes depression, followed by suicide, and there are no other adverse life events, then the bullying is the cause of the suicide. We may not have mathematical proof of that, but from a common sense perspective we can still draw conclusions. Courts take a commonsense approach when it comes to questions of causation and have been able to draw conclusions about the cause of particular suicides. For example in Lisle v Bruce (2001) 34 Motor Vehicle Reports 206, the plaintiff's husband sustained injuries in a car accident which led to "major depression". Williams JA, with whom McMurdo P and Thomas JA agreed, in the Queensland Court of Appeal held that the accident was the cause of his suicide three years later. This was despite the fact that other events in his life, such as an altercation involving the police and business difficulties, probably contributed to his suicide.

Fair point Rhys Jones.

You either do it.... or you don't!
it's only ever up to one person
and as far as youth go, their parents have already long passed the point of responsibility they should have exercised as regard to the care of theirs....take away the phones and the drugs you'll see a big difference....better still put the money into national service for all and you'll see a nation revived.....not to mention the boat people having second thoughts.
Instead of putting the money into Manus they could have put it into the NS scheme