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The loss of the Church’s moral authority : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 5/12/2017

In many cases the Church was involved in defining these laws, especially on the continent with the rule of Christian Democratic parties, for instance in Germany and Italy.

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Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 3:28:59 PM
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Diver, one of your best ever contributions!

Be careful, I'm beginning to like you, again!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 4:37:00 PM
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The ode to Billy Joe, is actually a parody to the death of Christianity, and sad moral decline.

Little hope remains for Christianity with its fundamentally flawed leadership.

But this is unlike Islam. Which forges forward with its powerful moral message.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 4:58:34 PM
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Islam doesn't have a moral message if it includes discriminating against folks, daring to be born different!

And then fighting each other with much spilling of blood over the musings of a child raping paedophile? With the latest episode the attack on a Sufi mosque and the mass murder of penitent peaceful Muslims at prayer! EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE!

One wonders where in that blood soaked, mouth frothing history, is there even a single shred of moral authority Diver!?

Or ours in the Spanish inquisition, the dark ages and acts like burning Christian Saints at the stake! And other acts of sheer barbarity! And all of it under the alleged imprimatur of the "ONE TRUE GOD"!

WTF is wrong with you Diver? Are you just a bloody minded radical fundamental fanatic, just pretending to speak for Christ? EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE!? And then we wonder why Australia is going to hell in a hand basket!?

You are never ever going to be able to stop mindlessly obsessing over homosexuality are you!? And ahead of all other considerations, all vastly more important than your patently puerile, pernicious parsimonious obsessions!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 5:42:58 PM
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Sellick writes: "Unlike the Church, democratic governments were able to respond to public opinion and it was that opinion that broke the nexus between government and the Church."

Anything but the cold hard truth, huh? Since the Renaissance witnessed the stirring of human minds increasingly dissatisfied with church control and dictat that demanded the suppression of truth to divine doctrine, human control of its society and its intellectual advancement has resulted in a growing revulsion toward chuch excesses. As social morality advanced and evolved to one more tolerant of diversity and as science demonstrated the perversion and corruption within church doctrine people voted with their minds. The thirst for education among developing nations, the basis of all development and essential in survival in world trade, was a significant move in intellectual advancement.

The various christian churches of Europe, so entrenched in the privilege of a second aristocracy, have not kept pace and have very poorly adjusted to being forced to act in society purely from altruism and sacrifice with little concommitant monetary gain or advancement in privilege.

The so-called "nexus" is without doubt a euphemism describing the millennia during which church and state were the same entity. It arouses utter abhorence in a citizenry so tired of weasel-worded euphemism used to describe the most awful acts of savagery and perversion perpetrated by the church against its flock, especially prior to but certainly not confined to the ages pre-dating the Renaissance.
Posted by Pogi, Friday, 8 December 2017 10:58:10 PM
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POGI.

Yeah and Amen.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 9 December 2017 5:57:58 AM
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