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We must avoid the final cut : Comments

By Katherine Barraclough, published 29/11/2017

My guess is most Australians aren't aware that an area of forest and bushland the size of the MCG is currently bulldozed in Queensland every three minutes.

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nicknamenick

"The 1mill was for 3 years in east Aust. Qld does half so it's 150,000 Ha /year which fits most estimates"

You are right on the 3-year bit, but not so sure on the rest. The article is specifically about deforestation in QLD although the first paragraph does say 1 mill ha in 3 years (strongly implying that this is all in QLD) thereby "making eastern Australia a global deforestation hot-spot"

I can't see any reference in the article to QLD only hosting half of the eastern Australian land clearing as you are asserting. You may be right, but the article doesn't seem to say it.

Anyway, my point was that when you drill down, the use of gross figures by environmental campaigners often substantially exaggerates the reality. Even though the quote I used was for 2015-16, I think it supports that point, because only one-third of the treated area was actually comprised of forests/woodlands that hadn't been cleared before, whereas the article was implying that all clearing is of pristine remnant forests/woodland.
Posted by MWPOYNTER, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 2:51:34 PM
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The native wisteria I was referring to, no name narcissist, is a salt drought and frost tolerant species. That thrives in some of our most marginal arid land, where grown as a soil improving broad acre crop, would require less than 10% of that land, to replace all Queensland's diesel needs.

Indigenous communities could possibly use this native species as something to grant reliable self sufficiency From two sources?

First from the oil crush fuel sales, then from a range of farmed protein. That the high protein ex crush material would produce at far better stocking rates than traditional agriculture.

And available in good years and bad, given it can be siloed then used as and when needed! Be it flood or drought, feast or famine!

And would along with some wattle that produces very palatable millable meal/very high protein biscuits, would transfer to parts of Africa to provide another arrow to the self sufficient food production bow in some places. Like nearly destitute Zimbabwe?

As to bird wing vine and bat wing butterflies? I bow to your superior knowledge of winged species that populate your cloud cuckoo land, or the land of the wrong white crowd, well into their cups. Watch that updraft, you don't know where its been.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 29 November 2017 3:08:03 PM
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"My guess is most Australians aren't aware that an area of forest and bushland the size of the MCG is currently bulldozed in Queensland every three minutes".

MWPoynter
The geography is a bit sloppy and she's no cricketer . Flicking the calculator gives 4mins not 3. Hope the patients get the right dose.

Dr Alan
So it's Hardenbergia comptoniana ? 700mm rainfall in coastal regions.
". mulga vegetation of the semi-arid regions of Australia (200-500mm annual rainfall),."

"Things is crook , I burnt all the remaining mulga , dug the carbon in to grow wisteria , the butterfly fluttered by , the Thorium's still in the post , no rain because I burnt..all..."
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 4:02:36 PM
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Graham I am very surprised that you would publish an article so full of lies by inflection, that it is ludicrous.

As MWPOYNTER pointed out most of the so called clearing is simply maintenance of previously cleared grazing, often improved pasture land. Some of it is reclearing large areas that have gone back to garbage scrub, useless to man or beast native or productive, due to the high cost of maintaining pasture.

The ridiculous clearing laws, introduced to appease green clowns like this lady, are like home owners having to apply for a new building permit to be able to paint their house. It is as if they wanted to clear virgin forest, hence this authors ability to lie so easily.

I have watched the 10,000 acre paddock across the river from me slowly, then rapidly disappear under regrowth over 25 years. Chatting to the owner as we replaced the fences lost in April's flood, he told me he simply could not earn enough money from it to pay for labour to maintain it. Now 75 he can no longer do it all himself, & his kids are too smart to do it, they've moved to the city. He is depressed to see 3 generations of work by his family degenerate into a fire hazard. Hell even the kangaroos have left, moving to my place which is partially cleared.

Evaluation of satellite imaging & ground surveys have proved there are 60% more trees in Oz today, than at first white settlement. All too many are thicket like regrowth virtually useless to wild life, or man. Despite this well known fact, dishonest greenies like this lady will twist statistics to try to make a case for their rabid ratbaggery.

You really shouldn't encourage such vial behaviour.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 5:27:08 PM
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Nothing that a US BLU-82B "Daisy Cutter" bomb wouldn't fix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82 :

The BLU-82B/C-130 weapon system, nicknamed "Daisy Cutter" in Vietnam would flatten a section of forest into a helicopter landing zone. It is an American 6,800 kg conventional bomb, delivered from either a C-130 or an MC-130 transport aircraft.

It was used successfully during military operations in Vietnam, the Gulf War and Afghanistan.

Its very large blast radius, variously reported as 100 to 300 meters, combined with a visible flash and bang, audible at long distances. It would give off a mushroom cloud, like an atomic bomb.

This made it one of the largest conventional weapons ever used.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 5:45:18 PM
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Daisy cutter it is , take your pick of kangaroo, wallaby or bandicoot / feral cat ( conditions apply). Napalm for those tricky hilly parts.
Hell , 138,000 hectare ain't nothin. Drop from cargo plane not B52.
Qantas has 13 and RAAF 32.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 6:05:31 PM
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