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The rhetorical trap: North Korea as 'state sponsor of terrorism' : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 28/11/2017

Obscure groups and more notable countries huddle together, supposedly sharing some disreputable common ground and we are none the wiser on the content behind the categorisation.

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All's fair, in love and war!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 9:01:54 AM
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I am not sure that being precious about what anyone calls North Korea is going to make any difference. Rogue state, run by a madman works for me.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 10:11:26 AM
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We have the fool proof, space age technology, to test this defectors credentials and your spirited defence of a nuclear armed and defiant, Sabre rattling, North Korea!

Which allows all to see you for who you really are? Just another, I believe, filthy fifth columnist, actively engaged against the interests of the Nation state?

By their fruits ye shall know them? Be they Binroy or Donald?

The only trap in evidence here? Is the one Binroy is setting for the unwary or clinically gullible!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 28 November 2017 10:13:23 AM
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North Vietnam was going to make dominoes fall across Asia , attacked the US embassy in Tet offensive and killed 58000 US freedom lovers.
( Heaps of free-love hippies were murdered which suited the Pentagon). Vietnam talked to Nixon and Kim Jong-Un and Trump talk to each other much like members of this online opinion forum . Apart from ttbn most are harmless and can trade peacefully.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 11:12:45 AM
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Lets hope Saudi Arabia, on account of its mutually profitable ties with the US, is never branded a Terrorist State.

Of the September 11, 2001 hijackers 19 men were tied to the terrorist organisation al-Qaeda. Fifteen of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia who skipped through US customs with inadequate US checking. All 19 relied on private/state/Saudi royal family money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks.

But let us remember Saudi Arabia is never on the terrorist state watchlist, because:

- Saudi Arabia sets the world oil price at a level that favours the US

- Saudi Arabia is always a major customer for US weapons

- Saudi Arabia performs public executions to terrorise Saudis, guest workers and Western expats

- Saudi Arabia is intentionally bombing civilians in Yemen in order to terrorise them

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen#Airstrikes
"On the night of 6 May 2015, the Saudi-led coalition carried out 130 airstrikes in Yemen in a 24-hour period. At first, coalition spokesperson Ahmed Asiri admitted that schools and hospitals were targeted but claimed that these were used as weapon storage sites. Asiri later claimed that his words had been mistranslated.

The United Nations humanitarian coordinator for Yemen Johannes Van Der Klaauw said that these bombings constituted a war crime. "The indiscriminate bombing of populated areas, with or without prior warning, is a contravention international humanitarian law," he said. He continued to say that he was particularly concerned about airstrikes on Saada "where scores of civilians were reportedly killed and thousands were forced to flee their homes after the coalition declared the entire governate a military target"."
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 11:16:42 AM
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Iran has nukes and jails Yanks . Yemen has Iran's support . Yemenis aren't Yankees. Yemen is very hard for Yanks to find on a map compared with Bill's semen . Yanks are soft on royals.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:07:07 PM
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North Korea was decimated by the US during the Korean War. The US hegemonic ambitions for regime change in NK and their stupid 'up the ante' continuous war games on the peninsular as well as surrounding NK with military offensive bases and their stupid insistence of not signing an armistice with NK is the only reason NK is continuing to build nuclear weapons and missile technology.

The US is the aggressor, not NK.

Additionally, the US is the perpetrator of war crimes and crimes against humanity with their covert support and arming of ISIS in Syria and Iraq and AK in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen and beyond. The MSM are full of shite and any reporting they do is blatant propaganda.

The Russians and Chinese are no threat to the US yet it demonises them on utter false pretences.

If the Russians hacked the US elections, show everyone the evidence, oh that's right there is none, 17 US intelligence agencies have not found a scrap of evidence. Go figure.

As for 911 Pete, if you believe the story put forward by the US government and their vassals then more fool you.

The US is the greatest threat to peace on this planet, if you haven't worked that out yet, you would be a mug.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:53:40 PM
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Part of the point of putting NK on the state sponsor of terrorists watch list is that a whole range of new sanctions kick in. NK after bombing a civilian jet was already on this watch list and was only removed when it appeared that they were negotiating in good faith.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 1:52:28 PM
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Great nations are like big ships which don't quickly change course.
Little Donald changes from tweet to tweet which is not great and is only matched by Kim's fury at being called "short and fat" in the pre-school yard . The US is shrinking .
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 2:10:21 PM
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Geoff of Perth

You're a voice of reason, while the rest of the US-led Western world is spoiling for war. The main target is Russia, but any country that falls outside of US control is also an easy target. North Korea is seen as a weak link in the 'pivot to Asia'. The real endgame is the destruction of China.

What really baffles me is that the European states seem to be going along with this madness, even though they will almost certainly be destroyed (yet again) by an all-out US war with Russia.

All I can assume is that they are locked into the NATO alliance, even though this alliance should (legally) have dismantled itself at the same time that the Warsaw Pact did. Instead, NATO has embarked on an aggressive military expansion eastwards right up to the Russian border.

Russia is now on full military alert to defend itself. Lord knows, it's had plenty of precedents. I have a creepy feeling that I have fallen asleep and woken up in 1914.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 1 December 2017 3:59:11 AM
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Thanks Killarney.

Now I hear rumours Trump is looking to sideline Rex Tillerson, just what we don't need as he is one of the lesser evils in the current US.

All the world will need is another neocon, Warhawk or military veteran as Secretary of State and the war drums will sound and Drumpf will act, a very scary scenario.

Cheers
Geoff
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Saturday, 2 December 2017 1:12:33 AM
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Conditions are perfect as in WWI . Loonies in US and NK , criminal desperado Russia and born-to-rule Chinese supremacy. Star Wars 9.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 2 December 2017 7:14:00 AM
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The bloke running NK is in my opinion, crapping his pants. Why, because he knows NK can get wiped off the map and world will remember NK for 1 or 2 days until this war starts.

NK snuggles up to both Russian and the Chinese borders and they know the US is out to get both of them and he, being the minnow is simply collateral damage.

He knows the US would love to nuke NK but "accidentally" make sure they go over the border of both China and Russia. He knows damn well that he and his country have everything to loose and nothing to gain by getting into a nuke based exchange with the US and the rest of its slave states.

Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative who was Deputy Secretary of Defense under the Bush regime, declared:
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

- Paul Craig Roberts.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/04/16/privatization-ramp-corruption-insouciance-ramp-war-paul-craig-roberts/
Posted by Referundemdrivensocienty, Sunday, 3 December 2017 9:09:56 PM
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